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#lemmy/#kbin has a problem that #mastodon hasn't even attempted to solve; groups and what happens when they get popular.

#Communities, #groups, #magazines, whatever they are called are implemented as #Actors in #ActivityPub. They are basically just *very* popular users who boost a *lot*.

You can't just distribute them across instances the way normal actors do. Whichever server hosts @technology@lemmy.ml or @technology@beehaw.org is going to get HOSED on the regular.

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[–] BlameThePeacock@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

If it's just a temporary outage, whatever the mirror has received prior to the outage will be shown to users on that other instance but only local interactions for that instance will update it, when it comes back up, things like votes and comments will be synchronized again across all of the instances.

For permanent outages, the community will just need to be started again on a new instance.

[–] TheAmorphous@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

But they could pick up where the now defunct community left off, right? Like, the cached copy from another server could be imported on a new server elsewhere?

[–] BlameThePeacock@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 year ago

That functionality doesn't currently exist, but migration of communities is something that's being actively talked about for development.

[–] sukan@feddit.jp 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Reading this and trying to visualize the big picture, I think this is where kbin's magazine is going to win out in the end

[–] Whooping_Seal@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Out of curiosity, how is kbin's magazine system designed to avoid this problem?

[–] sukan@feddit.jp 5 points 1 year ago

Ok, from what I understand now, a magazine can follow tags or keywords, which will populate the magazine. So no matter where in the fediverse something is posted, it will show up in the magazine.

But then if the instance hosting the magazine goes down YEAH OK I GET IT NOW

[–] sukan@feddit.jp 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)
[–] nii236@lemmy.jtmn.dev 1 points 1 year ago