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Storing metadata is really cheap because its small. But no one keeps raw security footage around any longer than necessary, because high quality video takes a lot of space.
Can disagree and prove that, join Telegram, check the mirror channels and other groups. They mirror anything, gore, live leak, CCTV cams, etc.
Self-hosting is more expensive than cheap cloud, otherwise everyone would self-host which is not the case. You also need to build an infrastructure if you self-host, no one usually does that because one small DOS attack and your little PI goes down, good luck bringing Google etc. down.
That said, I highly disagree, it is a naive point of view and dangerous. If it comes to be reliable, I always choose Google servers over your little mini server.
What? Do you think that ATMs security footage are just available in the wild or are uploaded to public spaces on Telegram or Mega or whatever?
Storage is cheap. The company I work for handles the security cams installed by some local town administrations (around 400 cams in total), and the entirety of the footage we collect is stored on our proprietary infrastructure. Of course you need some terabytes of storage at hand, but it's not an ever-increasing amount of data because footage is erased every week to free up space and comply with the law. We work for third-parties so we have no interest in breaking the law and keeping footage past its expiration date, so I have no idea of what happens with banks and the footage they collect, but I'm pretty sure these kind of things are often handled on a local infrastructure, usually with the support of specialized IT companies (I don't work for such a company but we somehow offer this service just to publicly-administrated entities and compete in the market with specialized companies) which are liable for what happens to the collected data. It's not always so obvious that large amount of data = google or amazon-hosted. For what I've been able to see (keep in mind, this is anecdotal experience), it's the opposite
I never said anything about public ATM footage in Telegram, the stuff you quoted is in response to the Admin and the hosting question. Most people, including myself, do not self-host for a bunch of reasons, it is cheaper and easier to upload your stuff into the cloud such as Telegram or Google Drive. My initial statement was that most providers, use and rely on third-party infrastructure and that externals could duplicate it, on their own, or they could be forced and that no one could find out. My statement regarding cheap and Telegram as an example was to show that people upload everything into the cloud, which is also the case, Google Drive and other services is full of Material, all sorts of material. Other services exist but they make maybe compared to big providers 10 percent of the traffic.
Most I know uses Google, AWS or Azure. Because they measure CPU work time, not even storage itself. That is how cheap they are. They are reliable, they are cheap as hell. If you want to build your own infrastructure like e.g. The-EYE did to host Terabytes of data you constantly need to upgrade, which is expensive. Oh well, and they went down because of what... money. The benefit is also that you do not need to worry, you pay for not only the provided services itself, also they take care of security issues etc. If you self-host you need to take care of all of that and upgrading the software alone is often not enough.
I rather trust experts who do this professional than some random dude who hosts his mini server that can be taken down without breaking a sweat. I tried that myself btw, for example I created a Tor server, it was not even public, took 2 hours until I got the first attack and it never stopped ever since then until I took it offline.
Your argumentation that we never do this or that is absolute redundant, assuming someone would do shady stuff with footage, no one would admit this anyway or he simply would be forced by contracts to never talk about such specific deals. However, it does not change anything regarding my statement that, if they can, they never delete things. Most people only delete stuff if they run out of storage, but typical scenario is run and forget it... until there are problems.