this post was submitted on 04 Sep 2023
398 points (95.9% liked)

World News

32290 readers
535 users here now

News from around the world!

Rules:

founded 5 years ago
MODERATORS
you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
[–] radiofreeval@hexbear.net 50 points 1 year ago (4 children)

I don't doubt this as it's happened to others, but Radio Free Europe/Radio Liberty is a literal CIA mouthpeice and tends to make stuff up.

[–] midorale@lemmy.villa-straylight.social 43 points 1 year ago (2 children)
[–] aaaaaaadjsf@hexbear.net 32 points 1 year ago
[–] Aria@lemmygrad.ml 21 points 1 year ago (2 children)

The problem with the RFA source is the CIA funding, not that it's in English. It's pretty disingenuous to try to imply Newizu is pro-Putin or anti-imperialist, or anti-west or anything else that would qualify as a separate bias or agenda.

[–] Zuzak@hexbear.net 40 points 1 year ago

I don't think they're implying anything like that? A Russian source talking about a bad thing Russia did is generally more reliable than a CIA source saying the same thing, since there's less incentive to make stuff up.

[–] midorale@lemmy.villa-straylight.social 13 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I read the previous comment. I tried to find a source they would prefer.

[–] Tankiedesantski@hexbear.net 16 points 1 year ago

I searched for her name and despite the RFE article being a week old, no other more credible outlets have picked up on it. Maybe other outlets are using a different romanization of her name but this is certainly a red flag.

[–] Zaroni@sh.itjust.works -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Compared to Russian sources radio free liberty is a baron of truth and press accountability, so frankly it does not matter.

[–] RegularGoose@sh.itjust.works 8 points 1 year ago

A shitty source not being the absolute worst source doesn't make it any less shitty than it is. If your only options for news are US government propaganda or Russian government propaganda, the only valid choice is to stop following the news.

[–] socsa@lemmy.ml -3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (5 children)

It literally isn't. RFE is definitely a US propaganda platform, but it objectively has nothing to do with the CIA these days. But you should probably check under your bed one more time just to make sure.

[–] Zuzak@hexbear.net 71 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

RFE also "objectively" had nothing to do with the CIA for nearly 20 years after it was created, at which point it turned out the CIA had been funding it all along. But now we know they've stopped because they said they did, and anyone suggesting that they're not editorially independent is a paranoid loon, just as they would've been in the 50's and 60's.

Some of us don't believe that the people whose job it is to lie stopped lying because they said they did. Suggesting that the CIA is still doing things that they did regularly and successfully kept hidden in the past is not a conspiracy theory.

[–] TankieTanuki@hexbear.net 29 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)
[–] Grimble@hexbear.net 56 points 1 year ago (1 children)

RFE is definitely a US propaganda platform, but™️

That's all you need to know. Scrap the whole source.

IDK it might be beneficial to know if it's ANOTHER one of the 15 intelligence agencies the US operates...

[–] UnicodeHamSic@hexbear.net 54 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Why? What possible reason could you have to belive they just turned over a new leaf?

[–] jackmarxist@hexbear.net 22 points 1 year ago

"The CIA said that they don't have anything to do with Radio Free anymore so it must be true."

[–] 420blazeit69@hexbear.net 51 points 1 year ago

The CIA routinely funds groups covertly. As is the case with RFE, we are often able to confirm this covert funding decades later.

A main purpose of the CIA is to obscure what groups the U.S. supports. Did they just stop doing their job one day?

[–] Kuori@hexbear.net 33 points 1 year ago

sourced directly from the fertile fields of your ass