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[–] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago (6 children)

When being "not pro west" means not analyzing the conflict but simply adopting the same point of view as Russian propaganda just because Ukraine is supported by the west then yeah, you're pro Russia.

[–] Egon@hexbear.net 19 points 1 year ago

What are you talking about? We have a huge incredibly active news mega that does analysis daily. The fact that we are as sceptical of western media as we are of russian is a good thing. You shouldn't just uncritically swallow state department propaganda. You should investigate claims made, instead of just accepting them.

[–] somename@hexbear.net 16 points 1 year ago

What is the Russian propaganda that we’re repeating in regard to Ukraine?

[–] PandaBearGreen@hexbear.net 14 points 1 year ago

Why can't you see the difference? We see the west and Nato as having propagated and profited off of this conflict. Russia is guilty as well as Ukraine in fanning the flames of war. But peace is a far better alternative to war and far better than flooding the area with weapons. Weapons that will continue to do damage long after hostility ends. Pro Russia How?

[–] AntiOutsideAktion@hexbear.net 11 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

When being "not pro west" means not analyzing the conflict

Just like you analyzed our news megathreads from the last year to make this assessment?

It just fucking baffles me how people from other instances feel so comfortable talking shit straight from their ass. I just don't understand the mentality. It's fucking slimy. You can just do that shit and you don't feel dirty?

[–] Egon@hexbear.net 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Go into the news mega and post your "analysis" we would love to see it

[–] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

No thanks, I'm not into brigading :)

[–] Egon@hexbear.net 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Are you this afraid of learning something? Coward

[–] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Nah, I just don't like being subjected to Chinese propaganda or any other propaganda as a matter of fact...

[–] Egon@hexbear.net 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Lmao propaganda is when you source your claims so others can check for themselves. It's pretty clear you're just very insecure of your knowledge. At some level you know you're wrong, so you're afraid of being challenged on it.

[–] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

If all your sources are propaganda then what does that make your claims? 🤔

Want me to find sources that COVID doesn't exist, that the earth is flat, that the moon landing never happened?

You know just because you have a source behind what you say it doesn't make it right, that's the stuff you learn by staying in school.

[–] MemesAreTheory@hexbear.net 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Okay, then vet the sources big guy.

[–] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Why would I bother finding tons of actual credible sources when I can't expect the same from you?

[–] RedDawn@hexbear.net 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You actually can and should expect that from us, we’re huge on credible sources and methodology, we’re obsessed with arriving at correct conclusions and that means starting from reliable premises.

[–] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah you're huge on credible sources just as much as COVID deniers are, where credible = anything that supports your point of view 👍

[–] RedDawn@hexbear.net 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You’ll find that we are not COVID deniers, we take COVID more seriously than probably 99% of people, you keep trying to compare us to people who’s views we don’t share at all , people whose views are actually closer to your own, which ought to give you at least some pause.

[–] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You talk about finding credible sources when you clearly have the reading comprehension of a 5 years old. I never called you a COVID denier, I compared you to them.

[–] RedDawn@hexbear.net 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That’s exactly what I said you dingus. You continue COMPARING us to people whose views more closely align with your own. People to your right when we are to your left and you’re fucking projecting your own insufferable right wing tendencies onto us

[–] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Just because you reach different conclusion doesn't mean we can't point out the similarities of the process.

Again, I never said you deny COVID exist, I said you use exactly the same logic as they do to reach your own conclusions, i.e. using non credible sources to build your view of the world.

[–] RedDawn@hexbear.net 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

“Your process is the same that’s why you reach opposite conclusions. Meanwhile my process is better that’s why I agree with the Nazis 50% of the time!” Fuck off dipshit.

[–] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I agree with the Nazis now? That's a pretty big jump you did there, you might want to try your hand at joining the Olympics team!

[–] RedDawn@hexbear.net -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Tell us more about how we must fight to the last Ukranian to save grand western civilization from the barbaric asiatic hordes of Russians

[–] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

So American imperialism bad, Russian imperialism good? 🤔

[–] RedDawn@hexbear.net 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Russia isn’t doing imperialism, but America was when it backed the 2014 coup to oust the democratically elected government of Ukraine.

[–] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

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That's some Winnie the Pooh logic right there!

Russia isn't doing imperialism, fucking hell 😂

[–] RedDawn@hexbear.net 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They’re not. The U.S. doing a regime change coup and putting Nazis in power in Ukraine in 2014 was imperialism, that’s why people living in parts of Ukraine like Crimea decided they didn’t want to be a part of that country anymore. Also I have no idea what Winnie the Pooh logic is supposed to mean.

[–] MemesAreTheory@hexbear.net 1 points 1 year ago

Just bog standard racism/yellow peril

[–] SexMachineStalin@hexbear.net 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

You might be shocked to realize that I was already well into adulthood in early 2014 when the Euromaidan took place - as in Obama with his shriveled fleshlight Joe Biden decided to stick their noses in Ukraine (on their way to Syria and Yemen of course), caught in 1080p

[–] MemesAreTheory@hexbear.net 3 points 1 year ago

This thread is fucking littered with comrades begging you to read, but you just sit there and say "doesn't look like anything to me" like it's Westworld or some shit and then keep on bashing us. It's amazing, truly.

[–] SexMachineStalin@hexbear.net 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

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[–] TawnyFroggy@hexbear.net 2 points 1 year ago

Why do you think it is impossible to just dislike two things at once?