Reporters were kept away by force and the CCP tried as hard as they could to hide all evidence. Crushed protestors were washed down drains with hoses, and many were whisked away to secret graves. Despite this, there is still significant photographic evidence

(This was copy pasted from Reddit)

[–] BeamBrain@hexbear.net 13 points 1 year ago

Crushed protestors were washed down drains with hoses

Hey, did those protestors have bones? Were they wearing clothes? Do you have the first clue about how the human body and/or physics work?

[–] Venus@hexbear.net 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

(This was copy pasted from Reddit)

Sorry my dietician told me to stay away from reddit-logo

[–] Estiar@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The first two links have plenty on them though and aren't from Reddit and I can go to archive the rest for you

[–] Venus@hexbear.net 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You believe ridiculous yeonmi-park -tier propaganda about hosing bodies down drains lmao, you have absolutely nothing to offer any discussion.

[–] Estiar@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I understand if you don't want to see. It's very disturbing stuff, and deeply offensive to those who love Xi Jinping thought.

[–] PandaBearGreen@hexbear.net 9 points 1 year ago

We've seen it and we've seen the alternative narrative. We tend to disagree with the US and their propaganda machine. Maybe you should question why you would believe them too? When has US propaganda lied?

[–] Venus@hexbear.net 7 points 1 year ago

I have seen everything you want to post a thousand times you worthless insect

[–] Egon@hexbear.net 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Lmao you're literally using Reddit as a source!
Not a single journalist who was on the square that day saw anything akin to the accusations happening. The only corpses in the square were those of lynched police officers and army members.
The tianamen square incident - as it is thought of in china - is in fact not supressed, but taught of.
The video of Tank Man is a video of a military unit showing incredible restraint - something you cannot find the equivalent for in "good" countries like the United States, where protesters are run over by cops daily.

[–] Estiar@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Here's the BBC on that https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KrYGiwhOuBo

[–] Egon@hexbear.net 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

wikileaks published a private diplomatic cable stating that no one was killed in the square itself, although a smaller number of people did die in clashes elsewhere in Beijing, consistent with China's own official account. (Here's a Telegraph article on the cables).
a spanish film crew was in the square all night and filmed people peacefully leaving the square in the early morning, singing the Internationale, here's footage of a Hong Kong news report that includes the spanish film crew footage, which never appears in western reporting).
one of the main organizers of the protest, Hou Dejian, states that no one died in the square and calls out other organizers for lying I Interview where Hou Dejian, a Taiwanese national and one of the leaders of the Tiananmen protests, says he was in the square all night and saw no one killed here is a twitter thread covering testimony by various organizers, including Hou Dejian).
Numerous western media sources have stated that no massacre occurred in the square. (This article links to multiple western sources, including James Miles, attesting that no one died in the square.).
various western massacre reports cite wildly different death figures, usually with little or no justification for the number.
An attempt to collect all the names of the massacre victims ended early when they only found 155.
CIA and NED goons were known to be present in Beijing and involved in the protests. (Here is an article from the Vancouver Sun in 1992, showing western intelligence involvement was known in the west decades ago).
during most of the protest, protesters were calling for a return to stricter communism, not for liberal market reforms. These were Marxists. Their signs showed Marxist figures and slogans. (This article shows some images of the protesters displaying Marxist slogans and iconography and discusses it a bit — careful linking this site though, some of the articles are pretty dumb)

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[–] RedDawn@hexbear.net 5 points 1 year ago

There were actually numerous western reporters in the square and they all say nobody died there, some of them sent off diplomatic cables the same or the next day saying so, which were released by Wikileaks.