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[–] gowan@reddthat.com 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Her comment sounds like she isn't anti trans but more has a problem with terms like birthing person instead of cis-woman or woman depending on context.

It's not anti-trans to suggest we use the term women rather than birthing person when discussing pregnancy fir example.

[–] Adramis@beehaw.org 7 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Except that it is, because it erases entire swaths of people who are able to give birth but who aren't women. Birthing person is inclusive of women and everyone else. I don't understand the problem.

[–] Leshoyadut@fedia.io 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It also doesn’t refer to cis women who are unable to give birth for any variety of reasons. It’s specifically not referring to a pretty sizable group of cis women while also including people who aren’t cis women, because cis women aren’t the ones being referred to; birthing people are.

[–] Adramis@beehaw.org 3 points 1 year ago

Didn't even think about that, that's a valid point. Thank you for bringing that up.

[–] gowan@reddthat.com 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Why is it ok to force a descriptor on a group of people that do not identify with said term?

[–] Vodulas@beehaw.org 1 points 1 year ago

Because it is meant to be used in healthcare care settings in reference to groups of people. It is a way more accurate and complete description of the cohort. Nobody is going around calling individual women "birthing people." Midler took a term out of context and tried to claim people are trying to erase women, which is classic TERF behavior