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[–] Tankiedesantski@hexbear.net 52 points 1 year ago (103 children)

You know what? I never thought I'd say this but I'm with Ukraine on this one.

This whole counter offensive insanity is so militarily nonsensical that it had to have been mounted to please the West with a "win" so that they'd stay in the war. Real Chiang Kai Shek committing the best of the KMT army to Shanghai to impress the Westerners energy.

The West is standing on the sidelines, supplying just enough equipment to keep the embers going and judging the ordinary Ukrainians going to their deaths by their hundreds.

Fuck the clowns in charge in Kiev and fuck the Nazi militias obviously. But at this point the men being sent to the front are old men and boys dragged off the street against their will. Sending them to die to appease the West is fucking sick.

[–] doom_and_gloom@lemmy.ml 31 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The US was clearly trying to manipulate Ukraine's efforts from the moment they realized Kyiv wouldn't be lost in a week. I'm always pleased to see them rebuked. Even better when they are manipulated by their own strings, instead of vice versa.

(Although I'd rather see an end to the bloodshed, and the prevention of a prolonged quagmire that would see expendable workers thrown to the grinder for years to come.)

[–] 420blazeit69@hexbear.net 27 points 1 year ago (2 children)

from the moment they realized Kyiv wouldn't be lost in a week

Goes back way longer than that, at least to 2014.

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