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[–] BuGiJu@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] kartonrealista@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I don't know how any of that applies to what I said here.

Edit: I skimmed through the text on the first read because I was sleepy. After reading more carefully I guess you're agreeing with me somewhat: yes, the necessity for certain types of organization in specific situations is why I dislike anarchism.

I don't know why a certain ineffective administrative model would have to be coupled with a more equitable economic model. Although I didn't want to argue that point, rather express a preference.

[–] BuGiJu@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I fail to see why you would disagree with Lenin, when what he did was put Marxism (according to Marx and Engels) into practice, of course adjusted to fit the conditions of Russia at the time.

[–] kartonrealista@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I disagree that he ever did anything approaching Marxism. His writings and his actions are pretty distant from one another.

[–] BuGiJu@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Well I would disagree with that assertion. He did a fine work of applying Marxism to the conditions of Russia at the time, although he didn't live too long so we can't really conclude where he would have gone with it. Read 'State and Revolution' it clearly outlines how Lenin's ideas and how they fit perfectly within Marxism.

[–] GarbageShootAlt@lemmygrad.ml 2 points 1 year ago

The largest departure Lenin made from classical Marxism was based on the plain and simple error Marx and Engels made that revolution would need to come from within heavily-developed states. This is unilinear thinking, and in reality the capitalists were able to export immiseration to the third world to give concessions to the domestic proletariat and reduce the (still severe) stratification enough to fend off revolution.