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[–] gmtom@lemmy.world 119 points 1 year ago (6 children)

You're gifted enough to cruise through the first few stages of your education without trying, so you forge an identity as "the smart kid" but never build up skills in learning or studying, so when you finally get to a level where your natural intelligence can't carry you anymore you can't keep up with the people who did learn those skills and you start to fail and lose your identity as the smart kid which causes you to break down because that'd how you defined yourself for so long..... or so I've heard.

[–] zephyreks@programming.dev 26 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That's the cost of designing education for the worst students.

[–] 7heo@lemmy.ml 18 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

This is actually the reason. Because there is no such thing as "natural intelligence". Not more than there is "natural strength". There are natural predispositions, yes, but what you get is function of what training effort you put in. Whether you realise, and/or like, putting effort into training your intelligence, is is another thing. So people who are "above average" were in a favorable environment that fostered their development without it feeling forced, or unnatural. And then, when the environment was replaced by the school's, it sadly didn't foster personal development anymore. I would argue we would need to redesign education, now that we have internet. We don't have to design courses around physical limits.

[–] MonkderZweite@feddit.ch 9 points 1 year ago

Because there is no such thing as "natural intelligence".

Weell, some children have it easier to comprehend stuff on the logical/abstract level than others. Which feeds their curiousity. Which trains their intelligence...

[–] ilikekeyboards@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Well you have to meet these people with down syndrome

[–] 7heo@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)
[–] Nowyn@sopuli.xyz -2 points 1 year ago

It is also not always about our intelligence but our skill set. I rarely have hard time learning when I want, but issue in my case has been in addition to probable ADHD and mental health issues that the system wasn't designed to teach me studying.

[–] DharmaCurious@startrek.website 14 points 1 year ago

Excuse me, I resent being attacked at 5am on a Friday, tyvm.

[–] SwampYankee@mander.xyz 8 points 1 year ago

Wow, that's exactly what I've... heard... too!

[–] spirinolas@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

That stang...

Also, when you see it happen and you actually start trying and do better but some teachers always give you a lower mark to "motivate" you so you'll "try even harder".

[–] Karyoplasma@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 1 year ago

First half describes me, second part does not. Never struggled in school or university (although I did fail lectures because I was too lazy to show up for exams).

But I also never defined myself about being "the smart kid", I always rejected that notion. Society didn't and still projected it onto me. That's why I'm breaking down crying every other day. I always tried to help people that do struggle, I always tried to keep my "gift" as far away from conversation as possible. It didn't matter, I'm a failure.

[–] spckls@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Why did you have to remind me of my higher education failures