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[–] Silverstrings@lemmy.blahaj.zone 35 points 1 year ago (3 children)

ITT: a bunch of lying ideologues that deny basic historical realities like the deliberate engineering of the holodomor or the brutal repression of dissent in soviet states

[–] CarlMarks@lemmygrad.ml 17 points 1 year ago

Maybe if "basic history" means "literally never read a book about it by a historian". Your description is a debunked fringe theory that was only ever entertained by a single serious historian and he was a big Cold Warrior that embarrassed himself.

You should begin your education by reading Wheatcroft and Davies.

[–] Krause@lemmygrad.ml 13 points 1 year ago

the deliberate engineering of the holodomor

Do you have a single source to back this up?

[–] GarbageShootAlt@lemmygrad.ml 12 points 1 year ago

basic historical realities like the deliberate engineering of the holodomor

You should be embarassed. The consensus even among neoliberal historians (and not neoliberal pop-historians like Applebaum) is that it was not "engineered" and the Soviets did not desire to starve the soviet peasantry in the area because that's a hysterical double-holocaust myth.

https://www.villagevoice.com/2020/11/21/in-search-of-a-soviet-holocaust/