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Propaganda pushers are the absolute fucking bottomfeeders of the lowest lows.
If your job is purposely, wittingly mislead people, you're a fucking waste of blood and organs.
Marketing. All of it.
Let this be a lesson everyone. By getting paid for focus groups you are helping sales people manipulate us even more.
What if I give them bullshit answers?
You change the fate of the entire universe.
Naw.
Not to in any way minimize the evils of propagandists, as they're pushing much more damaging messages, but that describes most of the advertising industry. It's just that those liars and manipulators are doing it for a brand so people waste money rather than a political cause.
It's kind of crazy that we just tolerate an entire massive industry that adds nothing to the world and is based around misleading people. And it's a business run out of fancy glass buildings out in the open rather than hidden away.
It's one thing to be paid to extol the virtues of X Y or Z product and entirely another to illegally influence public opinion in another country for political purposes using lies, deceptions, and half truths.
It's really not. Both are "lies, deceptions, and half truths" and neither is "illegal", just unethical. Propaganda is worse because of the goals, not because it's clearly separate endeavor.
If you lie in an advertisement, your company is exposed to consumer protection liability
What counts as a "lie" in advertising is incredibly narrow and if that's your bar almost none of the highlighted Chinese propaganda meets it.
Advertising is an inherently deceptive business. Products aren't really "#1", the podcaster or celebrity spokesperson almost certainly doesn't mean the words they're speaking, and those claims about "limited lifetime warranties" are intended to imply good lifetime support when the limits are commonly everything that might go wrong after it leaves the assembly line. These lies and deceptions are so routine we think they're harmless because we're conditioned to think lying is just a regular part of business and anyone who actually believes an advertisement is a fool.
Honestly, I feel like propaganda at least aims a bit higher than typical marketing. You're trying for grand aims of state and party, not trying to convince people to stew their livers in Bud instead of Coors.
Ops post is literally western propaganda
Idk. One of the examples is basically a post encouraging people to come and see the Great Wall of China.
What a pathetic attempt at misdirection, not the least because the Great Wall doesn't appear in either this article or the Facebook report.