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During the last few days I noticed a few people demanding that every Ukrainian refugee in Germany who is of able bodied age should be forced back to Ukraine to either fight on the front or work in ammunition factories or hospitals. As far as I can tell no major publication or politician has echoed this sentiment yet. I hope that will stay this way. But the sheer audacity with which these people demanded strangers to be sent to their death is astounding. "Fighting to the last Ukrainian" really is something they want and it sickens me.

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[–] SexMachineStalin@hexbear.net 20 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

so it's basically "Hitler's 1935 Nuremberg Rally Speech" translated into Estonian. Of course the only difference is people aren't calling to mass slaughter 300.000 here. Not yet anyways. 2014-22 now did not happen at all and people genuinely think Ukraine will be a prosperous, wealthy and powerful democracy. However, it will most likely be Hitluania or Natsvia who will build the first Bantustans.

Oh, and stay away from :reddit-logo:/eesti

Also anything remotely contrary to NATO narrative is immediately branded as "Kremlin propaganda" - Auschwitz was also called "Russian propaganda (like page 10 in Blackshirts & Reds)" but whatever ig

I've also since abandoned my more liberal take of "Russia was wrong to invade" and have shifted more Russia-leaning, along the lines of "Russia gave the post-coup government of Ukraine chances for 8 years - ceasefires, Minsk agreements, renounciation of joining NATO, deploying Western nuclear weapons and immediate halting of Apartheid policies against Russians in Crimea and eastern Ukraine - really basic, normal, reasonable demands. This war is not so much about whether it was right or wrong, but a response when all other options were exhausted".

[–] Shrike502@lemmygrad.ml 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

How's the overall situation over there? I've heard talks about deporting Russian speakers, but I think it was Lithuania? Does your government have similar ideas?

[–] SexMachineStalin@hexbear.net 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

They had but :eSStonia: decided they won't start deporting Russian citizens or arresting people for swearing on the bus in Russian.

And yes, it was Natsvia and Hitluania who went ahead with Russian language bans and deportations.