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Wait, did we go from being freaked out that our devices might be passively recording our speech to accepting it as the "good and normal" version of things? Cause I'm pretty alarmed at both.
I was going to say this! Just goes to show how dangerously effective mass conditioning by unscrupulous corporations is!
Hell, a lot of people think that caring about data privacy and -security AT ALL is for losers unless naked pics are involved ๐คฆ
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My favorite counterargument is asking these idiots if they close the toilet door. Because if they don't want people to watch them shit, then they probably are hiding some suspicious stuff.
Yeah, it's obvios they have something to hide if they want to close the door. They should make everyone see how they shit for the sake of our children
Butts for children?!
I thought they closed that place down!
It says but it's (the big i can be very irretating)
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Your devices recording you is something that doesn't happen.
That requires a lot of bandwidth, or a lot of battery and a little bandwidth. There's no evidence of that happening.
Honestly, the creepier thing is that they don't have to to get creepily accurate ads.
Geolocation data means they know who you spend time with. They also know their search history. They know your interests. They can look at what people who seem similar to you search for.
Plus, they serve you a lot of ads so they can afford to have a lot of misses.
What's your basis for this claim? I mean that might be the case, but is there some reason you're able to have so much certainty?
I understand the "bandwidth" argument, and the "they don't even need that" argument (I make a similar case in a comment to another reply), but neither of those support the idea that it can't be happening.
Getting around the bandwidth problem isn't that crazy: Low bitrate encodings (cause the audio doesn't need to be human-comprehensible) and edge compute (i.e. doing some work on the device before sending anything) could mitigate this significantly, so it's hardly impossible.
I think we mostly agree, I just wouldn't apply that degree of certainty. But if you're really confident that it's definitely not happening because it's definitely not possible, maybe you know something I don't?
Instead of recording and sending to servers, the tracker could use some speech to text locally amd send transcription to the servers too
especially as it doesn't even happen.
"oh yeah well how come I was talking about something mundane, common and extremely popular and then but 4 days later saw an ad for it?!?!?"
big mystery indeed
You're getting some downvotes, but yes, lol. I mean I'm not sure there's never any surreptitious hot mic eavesdropping going on, but people definitely often assume so when there's a more parsimonious explanation, e.g.:
Most peoples' ads are targeted based on more mundane technology, and they see hundreds of ads per day, so if even 1% of their ads overlap with something that they were just talking about, they'll still be fairly likely to see a spooky "I was just talking about that!" ad relatively frequently. Not to mention that they're likely to be thinking about a thing because their platforms are also proactively marketing that thing to them. Just pareidolia, no eavesdropping necessary.
Doesn't mean eavesdropping isn't happening-- Just means it doesn't need to be happening for that effect to occur.