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[โ€“] FlamingHot@feddit.de 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I don't think that applies here. Why would you ever burn a Quran IN PUBLIC? If you are not religious, or subscribe to other religions, why would you even own a quran? Quran burning in public has only one purpose, to provoke hate. Same as burning flags in public. Or hating certain groups of people in public. None of it is allowed or ok to do.

If you burn that thing at home or throw it in the trash, nobody will care. Otherwise it just falls into the "incite violence" category of things, because that is exactly the thing you are doing.

If moslems then go into a rage and be violent themselves, that isn't ok either, that should be clear.

[โ€“] moldimolt@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (3 children)

You should be allowed to display your beliefs in public, regardless of how enraged they might make others. You shouldn't be allowed to make direct threats, but anything else should be fair game.

Ehh, we saw how well that worked with the rise of fascism in the U.S.

[โ€“] Syldon@feddit.uk 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This is provided those beliefs are not offensive. If someone finds those practises offensive then do them out of the view of the public.

Religious violence should have a law encompassing this. People should never be allowed to use religion as an excuse to use violence: this is why we have a legal system. I do not understand why most countries in Europe are tolerant on this when it comes to the Muslim and Jewish communities.

[โ€“] moldimolt@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The government isn't your friend and should have no business deciding what's "offensive" or not enough to be banned.

[โ€“] Syldon@feddit.uk 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

O aye so who should make that call?

[โ€“] awwwyissss@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Nobody should be the "offended police"

[โ€“] Syldon@feddit.uk 1 points 1 year ago

Everyone is entitled to an opinion.

[โ€“] moldimolt@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The average man. Discourage offensive behavior with social consequences, not government oppression.

[โ€“] Syldon@feddit.uk 2 points 1 year ago

That worked well with Hitler didn't it?

People are idiots who follow a crowd. Give me one justification for the Kardashians. Look at how long it took for gay rights laws. And then look at how long it is taking for those laws to be accepted. We still see homophobic and racial acts today. Relying on the good of people is simply crass.

[โ€“] kilgore_trout@feddit.it -3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

I completely agree with you and @pizzazz@lemmy.world. Keep in mind though that in most European countries some harmless displays of belief are already banned, for example burning the national flag.

Then in Germany and Austria you can be arrested just for looking at a swastika on your phone.

[โ€“] zipfelwurster@feddit.de 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

This is simply false. In Germany, the swastika may be used in the context of education, art and some other places.

You are simply not allowed to march up and down the street with a swastika flag, which seems very reasonable.

[โ€“] Mrs_deWinter@feddit.de 5 points 1 year ago

Then in Germany and Austria you can be arrested just for looking at a swastika on your phone.

You absolutely cannot.