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Discussion of climate, how it is changing, activism around that, the politics, and the energy systems change we need in order to stabilize things.

As a starting point, the burning of fossil fuels, and to a lesser extent deforestation and release of methane are responsible for the warming in recent decades: Graph of temperature as observed with significant warming, and simulated without added greenhouse gases and other anthropogentic changes, which shows no significant warming

How much each change to the atmosphere has warmed the world: IPCC AR6 Figure 2 - Thee bar charts: first chart: how much each gas has warmed the world.  About 1C of total warming.  Second chart:  about 1.5C of total warming from well-mixed greenhouse gases, offset by 0.4C of cooling from aerosols and negligible influence from changes to solar output, volcanoes, and internal variability.  Third chart: about 1.25C of warming from CO2, 0.5C from methane, and a bunch more in small quantities from other gases.  About 0.5C of cooling with large error bars from SO2.

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[–] Kichae@kbin.social 72 points 1 year ago (2 children)

So, they'd still be wildly profitable, then?

Huh.

[–] Rozauhtuno@lemmy.blahaj.zone 33 points 1 year ago (3 children)

'Wildly profitable' would not be enough to them.

'Extremely profitable' would not be enough to them.

'Insanely profitable' would not be enough to them.

Infinite growth is one hell of a drug.

[–] Xariphon@kbin.social 16 points 1 year ago (1 children)

See also: any other form of cancer.

[–] NightAuthor@beehaw.org 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Infinite growth, until you kill your host. In this case the host is the whole human population.

[–] flipht@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Honestly, the whole world.

Will it recover? Maybe. Life is resilient.

But we've already presided over a pretty quick mass extinction that is still ongoing.

[–] Neon_Dystopia@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago

Life on earth has recovered from several mass extinctions, life finds a way. Humans are cooked though. Best of luck to the next sapient species to evolve.

[–] Enigma@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

The only time infinite growth would be possible is if we became a space faring species and colonized other planets. That would allow us to continue population growth.

Outside of that, infinite growth is impossible since there’s only so many people on this planet and even less who can afford their products.

[–] jandar_fett@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Capitalism and infinite growth is a microcosm of an organisms drive for infinite growth, which is usually curtailed by all sorts of biological and evolutionsry processes. Like space limitations and scarcity of resources, and I'm trying to figure out what is different between the individuals that form these mega corps and the average organism.

I dunno. Is this a stupid train of thought?

[–] QuandaleDingle@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago

Nah, it's a intelligently reasonable argument. The world would be saved if we could be rational like this.

[–] Nonameuser678@aussie.zone 14 points 1 year ago

Yeah it really drives home just how fucking cooked the situation is.

Sorry kids the biosphere is fucked and human society is an echo of what it once was but there were some rich people who didn't want to be slightly less rich than they already were.