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I'm really enjoying lemmy. I think we've got some growing pains in UI/UX and we're missing some key features (like community migration and actual redundancy). But how are we going to collectively pay for this? I saw an (unverified) post that Reddit received 400M dollars from ads last year. Lemmy isn't going to be free. Can someone with actual server experience chime in with some back of the napkin math on how expensive it would be if everyone migrated from Reddit?

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[–] Rogueren@discuss.tchncs.de 7 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I think Lemmy, like Mastodon, will crumble if people don't wrap their heads around federation. Mastodon stuggled because everyone just joined mastodon.social, not understanding that the server you join only affects your local timeline.

We need to teach people that you can join a small instance and still get 99% of the stuff you want from every other instance

[–] gds@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Speaking as someone who totally doesn't understand federation (but totally does get servers being overloaded) - I can completely see why they all joined what appears to be the primary instance. I did. I really struggled to work out which server to join and had to wade through a few that had their own special rules (eg "no creating communities here" - idr which one that was tho).

I ended up joining lemm.ee simply because it seems like a nice generic server set up to do general stuff with that wasn't lemmy.ml. Is that a good choice? idk.

I had a similar problem grasping mastodon (actually the reason I didn't really use it in the end).

Lemmy servers need to work more like Counterstrike or TF2 or WoW servers (edit: or IRC servers - that's probably a better comparison tbh), where you might want to join a specific server with its own personality, but most people probably don't care and are more interested in whether it performs well and is likely to be around a while. I also think some simple things like making the server less prominent in the UI and not making local communities the default view would help loads with people not feeling like they're less because they're not on the primary instance.

Edit: LMAO except I didn't. I posted using the account I'd made on lemmy.ml but decided not to use. Lemmying is hard, yo.

[–] if_you_can_keep_it@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

My local timeline is literally the whole reason I joined this particular instance. There isn't enough traffic in the niche subs, so I find a popular instance with posts that tend towards my interests, instead.

[–] kosama@socel.net 1 points 1 year ago

@if_you_can_keep_it @Rogueren Assuming that one Federated Service is the end all be all user experience for what you’d like to share can hurt many. In Mastodon I kept seeing people (during the Twitter Exodus) who wanted multi-sever posting to each local feed under one account. Like Lemmy’s cross site posts, not sure if Lemmy lets you cross post multiple times to different communities. But some basically wanted Mastodon to work like Lemmy and FB Groups.

e.g. Main Post -> Community 1, Community 2

[–] Borgzilla@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 year ago

YES. People need to understand how federation works. The more instances there are the better. It would be nice if each instance could have its own 'personality' either through custom styles or specific functionalities. It would motivate people to join multiple instances.