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[–] Egon@hexbear.net 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You said the source brands I speak of can be said to lie about what’s going on and spin it to something of their liking.

I then highlighted why and showed examples of them having done so.

. Here, the question “as opposed to what”.

Lying as opposed to observable reality, for example with regards to the Iraq war and stories about North Korean haircuts. With regards to the Iraq war they themselves have admitted to it, the untruths are well known. With regards to North Korean haircuts this lie has been highlighted by people reporting on the ground, showing it to be untrue.

called out as lying have to indicate it might be lying that the other sources anyone else can call out for lying don’t have.

The source "called out for lying" has been proved to have lied. The others have not. You are welcome to prove so - which you do by showing them lying, not by posting some us state dep ghoul saying "oh they're lying".

[–] shinigamiookamiryuu@lemm.ee 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I then highlighted why and showed examples of them having done so.

You gave disagreements, it isn’t as if you pointed out holes or contradictions. Anyone can do that.

Lying as opposed to observable reality, for example with regards to the Iraq war and stories about North Korean haircuts.

Are you saying you’ve observed them or that I have the power to observe them? If it’s the former, is this something you can prove? If it’s the latter, I’m more than happy to observe when you’re ready (and no, “sources” are not “observation”).

The source “called out for lying” has been proved to have lied. The others have not.

Based on what? Based on external sources? That brings us back here.

[–] Egon@hexbear.net 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Alright, this is going in circles, it's obvious you're not acting in good faith, so I am going to disengage

[–] shinigamiookamiryuu@lemm.ee 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

At least I'm not responding with insults about pigs and brickheadedness.

[–] Egon@hexbear.net 0 points 1 year ago

It's not an insult when it's true