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[–] BurgerPunk@hexbear.net 11 points 2 years ago (2 children)

How so? How is being against AES not anti-comminist?

[–] LittleLordLimerick@lemm.ee 1 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Why does AES always seems to end up with forced labor camps? I don't remember forced labor camps being a central part of socialist ideology...

A country can call itself socialist, that doesn't make it so.

[–] UnicodeHamSic@hexbear.net 14 points 2 years ago (1 children)

So America is AES? We lead the world in prision labor.

[–] LittleLordLimerick@lemm.ee 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

America bad does not imply China good.

[–] UnicodeHamSic@hexbear.net 6 points 2 years ago

China doing good in the world while America does bad does imply that though.

[–] BurgerPunk@hexbear.net 14 points 2 years ago (2 children)

So the arbiter of what is socialist is you? Not the revolutionaries who have actually worked on socialist projects

[–] LittleLordLimerick@lemm.ee 4 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Yes, I can have an opinion on socialism without having been a socialist-revolutionary. That is correct. Spot on.

[–] BurgerPunk@hexbear.net 13 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Sure you can have an opinion, but if its about something you know nothing about, and have not investigated then it is worthless. Not just to other people, but to yourself as well

[–] LittleLordLimerick@lemm.ee -1 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I know you are, but what am I?

[–] BurgerPunk@hexbear.net 12 points 2 years ago

no-choice I now have no choice but to abandon communism

[–] Awoo@hexbear.net 11 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

What have you actually done to help socialism then?

Are you a union organiser? Are you in a union? Which one? What party are you in? What projects do you support? What are you actually doing as a socialist? Other than voting for a liberal party every few years I mean.

[–] LittleLordLimerick@lemm.ee 0 points 2 years ago (2 children)

My partner is a teacher and is in a union. We are both active in organizing and supporting. There are no unions for the industry I work in, so I work with hers.

[–] Awoo@hexbear.net 16 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Then you should know better than this bullshit, because you would be working with several of us. There is definitely not a teaching union that is not filled with MLs, education in particular has the highest number of us.

[–] ghost_of_faso2@lemmygrad.ml 7 points 2 years ago (1 children)

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if your political activism starts and ends with being in a union you are useless to any socialist project, you even elevate yourself above others because of your union membership; liberal complancy, please boss uwu be nice and give us a raise.

[–] LittleLordLimerick@lemm.ee 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Well your political activism starts and ends with posting Lenin quotes in online discussion boards, so I don’t know that you are in any position to be calling other people useless.

[–] ghost_of_faso2@lemmygrad.ml 10 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

I am a union member too, I just also go out and organize on top of that; right now im trying to arrange a rent strike in my local community, I feed the homeless at soup kitchens and I attend every single march and protest for allinged interests that im able too.

Wait till you learn that there are right wing unions, and that union membership should be evaluated on a case by case basis;

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hard_Hat_Riot

[–] LittleLordLimerick@lemm.ee -1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Nah, I fully know you as a person, including everything you've ever done and everything you ever will do, from just a couple of internet comments, and I judge you useless. So give up. Stop being a socialist. I, an internet stranger, know you are not contributing anything of value, so why bother?

[–] PaupersSerenade@sh.itjust.works -1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

As opposed to you/hexbear being sole arbiters?

[–] ghost_of_faso2@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 2 years ago

person above wasnt claiming to be the sole arbiters, dumb comment

il take the largest communist projects in the world, the word of millions + people who study marxism and practice it in reality everyday over a liberal who would struggle to define the word 'socialism' and whos political education starts and ends with there high school history class + 10 years spent on /r/politics

[–] Honytawk@lemmy.zip 0 points 2 years ago (4 children)

Cause you can hate one thing but like an other version.

The world is not black and white.

[–] FuckYourselfEndless@hexbear.net 8 points 2 years ago

Been thinking about getting one so I can just regurgitate trite Redditisms and feel content contributing nothing to the minds of others.

[–] BurgerPunk@hexbear.net 5 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

How you like communism and hate communism at the same time? Its not black and white thinking, its just basuc reality

[–] ghost_of_faso2@lemmygrad.ml 4 points 2 years ago

'Im not wrong its the billions of people living in communist countries that are wrong'