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By “being slightly critical” they mean even slightly implying that China is not in every way a completely perfect utopian paradise incapable of doing wrong.
Lol what a blatant lie. OP's posts that got removed were about the homeless and had nothing to do with China.
Don't y'all ever get tired of making shit up and lying about us?
Sorry, I don't know what OP's posts were. OP can fuck themself in that case
Really? You sounded like you knew when you made this comment:
https://hexbear.net/comment/3805870
Sorry I was so hostile. But yeah there's a reason they left it vague and didn't give any examples.
We can see your removed comments in the mod log FYI.
I'm from hexbear, people are critical of it all the time on hexbear. You just can't criticize China and not know the people there are far better off than those in the US
You cannot acknowledge anything even slightly negative that China has ever done without being jumped all over
Mao killing the sparrows during the four pests campaign was bad. The cultural revolution produced excesses that didn't need to happen if it was handled better.
Oh look nobody on hexbear is going to hate on this comment.
Modern day China is both capitalist and emperialist and has a disregard for basic human rights. It is not in any way shape or form a communist state. Oh, and it actively tries to censor and erase the fact that it ran down its own citizens with tanks.
Do you see how dishonest it is to claim that even slightly criticism of China is forbidden on Hexbear and then when the person speaks to you offers substantial criticism, your counterpoint is that we disagree when you say extremely bad shit about China?
What is a slightly negative thing about China that you feel you couldn't share on hexbear.net?
Listen, yes, I do see that I'm being unfair and dishonest. I tend to pop off without thinking
Yeah that's clear
How is China imperialist? The other stuff you're saying us wrong too, but i know the propaganda you will point to to get there. But imperialist? You mean Belt and Road? Building hospitals in Africa?
Let's start with Tibet.
You mean the theocratic slaver state of Tibet that was liberated by the PLA? That's a fine place to staet to show that you a just another western left anti-communist.
Edit: I'd recommend Blackshirts and Reds to understand the phenomenon of left anti-communism in the West. If you're serious about communism, it might help you understand the rift driven between you and the people you call "tankies" https://mltheory.files.wordpress.com/2017/06/michael-parenti-blackshirts-and-reds_-rational-fascism-and-the-overthrow-of-communism-2001.pdf
Yes yes yes, China freed and liberated Tibet by taking it over. Of course. Nothing imperialist about that.
Just like the US has been liberating and freeing all those people in the middle east.
There's a big a difference between the two actions. Let's start with the US. They "liberate" Iraq and Afghanistan and proceed to extract value out of the country. Byzantine networks of private contractor orgs: Haliburton, KBR, Blackwater all making money, along with the military industrial profiteer complex. These countriee were hollowed out for profit and foreign extraction. US empire nakedly acts to make money for the ruling class.
Now, where is that in Tibet? Where is the capitalist extraction? Where is the hollowing out and using up of resources? People in Tibet are now freer, and better educated, and live better lives now than when they were slaves to the lamas. Its not cynical double speak to call what happened in Tibet liberation the way the US government claimed to he liberating Iraq. They freed an enslaved people, that's not an act of imperialism just because it involved an army. An army literally named the People's Liberation Army
I will check out the book. I've been wrong about plenty of things before, so always willing to learn
Cool. It was one i found very clarifying when i was trying to learn more about AES and sort through the reality of those countries as opposed to the Western version of them
Download it to my phone. Will read on the bus tomorrow
Warning: Hexbear emoji
spoiler
His soul is marching on!
And other unsourced, unsupported, and racist claims, presented by your local liberal.
Any sources that I provide will be dismissed as western propoganda.
Its not our fault if the information you believe is Western propoganda
I mean it kind of is you guys need to do a better job with the propagandizing.
Correctly too.