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[–] Lordbaum@mander.xyz 24 points 1 year ago (6 children)

Fuck tankies, abolish money (and the state and the class society when we are already on it)

[–] Flaps@hexbear.net 29 points 1 year ago

Sounds pretty tankie to me

[–] DBVegas@hexbear.net 26 points 1 year ago (2 children)

What magical step do you think is going to get us to abolish money and have a classless moneyless society? You need a vanguard communist party to use the state apparatus to destroy the bourgeoisie in a transitory socialist phase before achieving communism (said classless moneyless society).

[–] Lordbaum@mander.xyz 1 points 1 year ago

Sorry for the late response but what always puzzles me how do you enforce freedom I mean these are more or less contradicting things. The only way I can imagen people getting liberated is by first liberating themselves and then cooperate with like minded individuals to create a grass roots organization that's destroys and replace the old system. And not just replacing it's leadership. I mean we tried it, but it ended up being spoiled like the former leaders/system1. ( if more or less worse is debatable) it even crushed like minded individuals in the process. What I want to say people can only be free if they want to be free and if you give them a chance to develop them freely and that the means mark the ends. I myself don't know the complete plan and picture how a revolution will happen and how it will look at the end, but I have some ideas in my Head which I will work (for example promoting an gift and library economy as well as helping some orgs) to help my comrades and support the revolution. I just ask you to not make the same mistakes that our ancestors did, comrade.

[–] Krause@lemmygrad.ml 21 points 1 year ago (1 children)

fuck tankies

abolish class society

lenin facepalm

[–] Perfide@reddthat.com 5 points 1 year ago (4 children)

You can be a communist without being a fucking tankie. Fuck off back to lemmygrad.

[–] WideningGyro@hexbear.net 18 points 1 year ago (5 children)

I'd love for you to explain exactly what you mean by "tankie"

[–] HornyOnMain@hexbear.net 26 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Tankies are people who main Roadhog, Reinhardt or DVa

[–] ShimmeringKoi@hexbear.net 19 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I think it means someone who likes doing whippets, not sure why they're bringing it up here tho

[–] ikilledtheradiostar@hexbear.net 14 points 1 year ago

That's a wook.

Tankie Is a guy that likes propane over charcoal.

[–] IceWallowCum@hexbear.net 18 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

It's always just leftists who aren't western brand "leftists", i.e. completely averse to action and change.

Libs will demonize all forms of action and analysis of oppression and then wonder why things just keep getting worse despite them doing a lot of useless, performative things. In the lack of a correct theory, it always comes down to "it's those damn Asians!!!!"

[–] Perfide@reddthat.com 2 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Nah, we both know what I mean, don't try to sealion this. You can fuck off back to Hexbear.

[–] ThereRisesARedStar@hexbear.net 23 points 1 year ago

The point is it tankie is an amorphous McCarthyist insult. No one knows exactly what you're saying because most of the people who use it aren't on exactly the same page. I've been called a tankie for supporting Cuba's new family code and the intensely democratic process behind it and for saying the taean work system is a good system.

[–] ShimmeringKoi@hexbear.net 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] captcha@hexbear.net 4 points 1 year ago

"Woke" on foreign policy...

[–] Flinch@hexbear.net 4 points 1 year ago

buddy, we're already on Hexbear, that's how federation works

[–] BurgerPunk@hexbear.net 4 points 1 year ago

We really don't know. Unless your definition is someone who supported the Soviet Union sending in tanks to put down the coup in Hungary, then its pretty devoid of meaning

[–] 420blazeit69@hexbear.net 15 points 1 year ago

The pure (libertarian) socialists' ideological anticipations remain untainted by existing practice. They do not explain how the manifold functions of a revolutionary society would be organized, how external attack and internal sabotage would be thwarted, how bureaucracy would be avoided, scarce resources allocated, policy differences settled, priorities set, and production and distribution conducted. Instead, they offer vague statements about how the workers themselves will directly own and control the means of production and will arrive at their own solutions through creative struggle. No surprise then that the pure socialists support every revolution except the ones that succeed.

parenti

[–] BurgerPunk@hexbear.net 6 points 1 year ago

How? By not supporting any AES or any revolution that succeeded?

Fuck off back to reddit where western chauvinists are welcome

[–] Egon@hexbear.net 18 points 1 year ago

abolish money (and the state and the class society when we are already on it)

And how do you propose we actually go about doing this?

[–] rubpoll@hexbear.net 14 points 1 year ago