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[–] Filipdaflippa@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago (5 children)

I can't 😭😭😭 imagine that talk but about blacks or Jews hahaha y'all are unhinged

[–] Egon@hexbear.net 17 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

"Well what if it was actually something different huh? Didn't think about that, did ya?"
speech-r ) smuglord

Being a nazi, as opposed to black or jewish, is an ideological choice and not a question of race. That choice is a choice were you decide to pursue violent means in order to exterminate those of other races. Do you think a person pursuing genocide should be stopped? If you do, what do you propose should happen when they oppose being stopped?

[–] Filipdaflippa@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago (4 children)

If you grew up in a racist household and that's all you knew, is that still your fault? I'm genuinely asking what you think about a child that's been indoctrinated into that lifestyle.

[–] iie@hexbear.net 14 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

i mean it's basically a trolley problem. whether or not we blame someone who was born into naziism, at some point we have to stop them before they hurt others. and if the nazis are armed and organized, we start running out of peaceful ways to stop them.

[–] Egon@hexbear.net 13 points 1 year ago

It's not that persons fault at all, but I think you're making a mistake here in making a systemic question into an individual. We can recognize that no person is inherently "evil" (though I hate to use that word, I'm just lacking for words), but also recognize that the person is a member of an ideological group that is, and as long as the person is a member of said group, they're opposed due to the fact that they are working towards genociding minorities.

[–] eatmyass@hexbear.net 7 points 1 year ago

I will respond to you with what I said to another person regarding whether we should have sympathy for southern slaveowners

And yeah maybe they were raised that way, propagandized that way, never had a chance to form differing opinions - I don’t care. At one point they were upholding slavery and maintaining it, and I’m not going to be gentle with them while Black people were being worked to death, killed, beaten, and kept in bondage through their actions.

[–] PosadistInevitablity@hexbear.net 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

β€œI was just raised to kill Jews im an innocent wholesome bean”

Yeah that’s bullshit. Stop making up nonsense

[–] Filipdaflippa@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

You're right, let's round all the "nazis" up and shoot them.

[–] ToxicDivinity@hexbear.net 3 points 1 year ago

If I'm raised in a cult and taught all my life to hunt and kill you is that ok with you because it's not my fault that I was born into that situation?

[–] MF_COOM@hexbear.net 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Just responding with a screenshot so you can never remove the evidence that you said something so dumb

[–] Filipdaflippa@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

this gave me a good chuckle, thank you for that bud

[–] ToxicDivinity@hexbear.net 13 points 1 year ago

No one is born a nazi. You choose to be a nazi because you're a hateful bigot and you can choose to stop being a nazi. Saying it's wrong to punish/forcefully reform nazis is like saying it's wrong to punish child predators

[–] eatmyass@hexbear.net 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Hahahahahahaha β€œuhh what if you replaced this one word with a completely different word? Not so smart now huh” lol you’re a joke

[–] Filipdaflippa@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I love how you all hide behind whataboutism, you all have the exact same reaction which is absolutely hilarious to me. It's all choreographed like a certain "group" y'all hate 😭

[–] eatmyass@hexbear.net 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You literally cannot stop with the β€œsee these two different things? They’re actually the same.” It all seems very choreographed πŸ‘€

[–] Filipdaflippa@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 year ago (3 children)

How is it different to say a group of people who believe in a certain thing should all be exterminated, isn't that what Nazis also want?

[–] ReadFanon@hexbear.net 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Nazis: kill people

The Allies in WWII: killed people

Ergo, the Allies were literally Nazis. QED πŸ€“πŸ€“

[–] Filipdaflippa@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

You're right, let's round up all the "Nazis" and shoot them in the back of the head.

[–] Egon@hexbear.net 4 points 1 year ago

So you think we shouldn't have fought the Nazis? You still won't answer the question

[–] eatmyass@hexbear.net 5 points 1 year ago

What is it that Nazis believe?

[–] ToxicDivinity@hexbear.net 3 points 1 year ago

The manson family all believed a certain thing. Should we have let them go free?

[–] ReadFanon@hexbear.net 9 points 1 year ago

That's not what whataboutism even refers to. Your fallacy-brained nonsense is blinding you to the strawman argument you just made.

[–] PosadistInevitablity@hexbear.net 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Should we have NOT invaded Nazi Germany and stopped the holocaust?

Was that a bad thing in your mind? Honestly confused . Killing Nazis was necessary.

[–] Filipdaflippa@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Is there a holocaust going on right now?

[–] Egon@hexbear.net 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You're talking about the Nazis which were the people that perpetrated the holocaust. We think it was good to use violence, you seem to think otherwise. What did you think should've been done to stop the holocaust?

[–] Filipdaflippa@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm talking about the people you call "nazis", the Nazi party doesn't exist

[–] Egon@hexbear.net 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

You're talking about the Nazis. Your post was about nazis, people are responding talking about nazis. The discussion is clearly about nazis, which comes as a result of you framing the discussion about nazis. If you didn't want it to be about nazis, but I stead your perception that leftists label political opponents "nazi" as a way to otherize them and justify political violence, then you should've argued that point instead.
Do better, learn what words mean.

And answer the question

[–] Filipdaflippa@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] Egon@hexbear.net 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Why would you feel threatened about violence against nazis?
And again: Do you think we shouldn't have fought the Nazis? You still won't answer the question