I'm confused. Are you downplaying what happened? Or stating that it never happened? Or that it happened, but the US has twisted/lied about what happened?

[–] ndarwincorn@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

You've got it with the last one.

[–] th0mcat@talk.thomcat.rocks 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

What would be a good source for me to read that you would consider closer to the actual truth of what happened?

[–] ndarwincorn@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 years ago (3 children)

A WaPo reporter disavowing what was published in their name.

China has never denied it or covered it up. The only thing they've rejected are Anglo-imperialist attempts to foment further discord like the statue in the OP here. The original protests were NED-funded too.

Wikileaks cables show that the US State Department knew what actually happened.

A leader of the protest acknowledges no protestors were killed.

So what did happen? A guy walked in front of a tank, which stopped for him and let him even climb on top without even being arrested (the video exists in full for you to confirm this). Imagine that happening at a 4th of July parade in amerikkka. CIA-fomented protestors killed unarmed members of the PLA sent in to disperse them. Again, imagine that happening in amerikkka.

Further reading.

[–] th0mcat@talk.thomcat.rocks 2 points 2 years ago

Wow. I appreciate the sources, thank you.

[–] southerntofu@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 years ago

From your Wikileaks source:

BODIES AND WOUNDED, HOWEVER, BEGAN TO ARRIVE AT THE RED CROSS STATION INDICATING THE EXTENT OF THE FIGHTING AND THE FACT THAT REAL BULLETS WERE BEING USED. (...) HE WATCHED THE MILITARY ENTER THE SQUARE AND DID NOT OBSERVE ANY MASS FIRING OF WEAPONS INTO THE CROWDS, ALTHOUGH SPORADIC GUNFIRE WAS HEARD. (...) GALLO SAID WOUNDED, INCLUDING SOME SOLDIERS, CONTINUED TO BE BROUGHT TO THE RED CROSS STATION. (...) THEY CIRCLED THE RED CROSS STATION AND BEGAN YELLING AND THROWING STICKS AND DEBRIS OVER THE HEADS OF THE PEOPLE AT THE STATION. THE MEDICAL PERSONNEL PANICKED AND FLED, LEAVING BEHIND THE WOUNDED. (...) THE FEW THAT ATTEMPTED TO REMAIN BEHIND WERE BEATEN AND DRIVEN TO JOIN THE END OF THE DEPARTING PROCESSION. (...) THEREFORE, HE COULD NOT COMMENT ON REPORTS THAT STUDENTS WERE AMBUSHED AND SLAUGHTERED IN THE ALLEY JUST WEST OF THE SQUARE NEAR THE BEIJING CONCERT HALL. (...) ALTHOUGH HE DID NOT ACTUALLY WITNESS ANY LARGE SCALE SHOOTINGS ON THE SQUARE PROPER, GALLO SAW MANY CASUALTIES BROUGHT INTO THE SQUARE AND DID NOT DOUBT THAT HUNDREDS OF PEOPLE IN BEIJING WERE KILLED BY THE ARMY ON JUNE 3 AND 4.

That's not exactly what i call a denial of state violence.

[–] jalabalababo@lemmy.ml -4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

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