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[–] grue@lemmy.ml 80 points 1 year ago (7 children)

ITT: folks who think Linux is too complicated or whatever, but are perfectly willing to jump through endless hoops to work around some of Windows' deliberate hostility.

The Stockholm syndrome is real.

[–] spider@lemmy.nz 23 points 1 year ago (2 children)

folks who think Linux is too complicated or whatever

At one point this was true, but that was many years ago.

Unfortunately, that reputation has kind of stuck.

[–] heartlessevil@lemmy.one 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Not really. You are underestimating how stupid the average person is. They cannot peel an orange.

[–] Sybs@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

The barriers are still too steep. My Ubuntu machine updated it's kernel and then refused to boot after that. I had to look up how to manually lock the old working kernel.

Windows has never completely broken itself on an update for me.

If that happened to my parents they'd be angrily driving to the shop to get another cheap windows laptop.

[–] yuriy@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Funny, I switched to Ubuntu because my brand new laptop was continually bricking with Windows 10, specifically due to Windows Update.

Roundabouts the time period of the forced Windows 10 update I had a desktop and laptop BOTH completely break, booting only to a black screen on startup, having received somewhere around half of an update I had no say in.

I’d like to think they’ve learned their lesson. I’d like to think I could safely leave a windows computer on overnight without waking up to a surprise new version, or bricked PC. But even having that as an outside possibility is enough to turn me off windows entirely.

[–] expr@programming.dev 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

We have a phrase for a bricked windows install: it's called the Blue Screen of Death. It's not like Windows never gets fucked either.

I've personally never had such an issue upgrading Linux.

[–] DerisionConsulting@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 year ago

The BSoD isn't always a bricked Windows machine, it's often just an OS crash that causes you to restart the system.

[–] Double_A@discuss.tchncs.de 22 points 1 year ago (1 children)

In my experience Linux usually has many more hoops...

[–] Pyroglyph@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I've reinstalled both Linux and Windows on the same machine a few weeks ago and it was considerably easier and faster to install Linux. It also had less problems post-install too.

[–] PraiseTheSoup@lemm.ee 21 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Installing Linux is incredibly fast and easy, yeah. It's everything you try to do after that. Unless you are a regular user and have commands memorized you need to open a browser and go look them up every time you need to do some basic shit. I've been using Linux off and on since 2008 and you just cannot say with a straight face that it is easier than windows.

[–] coltorl@programming.dev 4 points 1 year ago

I’m a developer, so I find it easier because dependency management is easier (especially if you have a good package manager, arch btw). WSL is improving but is still not enough for my needs (big projects that use usb are not well supported).

[–] JTskulk@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Opening up a browser to look up commands to copy and paste is a lot easier than looking up registry fixes and mimicking screenshots into GUIs. I fix Windows for a living and the crazy shit I see daily blows my mind. It seems like in Windows I'm doing the same thing multiple times until it (hopefully) works but in Linux the problem is easier to identify and fix.

[–] Agent641@lemmy.world 19 points 1 year ago

Microsoft only hurts me when I'm being a bitch. Its my fault. He's normally really nice.

[–] MullMaster@lemm.ee 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

: folks who think Linux is too complicated or whatever, but are perfectly willing to jump through endless hoops to work around some of Windows’ deliberate hostility.

Man I realised this when I found myself running a third party program just to get my audio to simultaneously play out of multiple outputs on windows. I had regular issues with games and my killer ethernet adapter (they're notoriously bad, but after switching to linux didn't have any issues). Reformatting for home was getting longer and longer. Start menu search started to become slow and bogged down. Windows store was a nightmare. It was a constant battle to remove all the advertising and tracking "features". I game, but mostly a PC for me is a tool. When a tool stops doing its job, it gets replaced.

Funnily, when I play games with my friends, I rarely have issues... but as soon as I do, they they're pretty quick to jump down my throat about my OS of choice.

EDIT: WSL is pretty nice though, I use it on my work box.

[–] exohuman@programming.dev 2 points 1 year ago

I think Windows makes multiple audio input/output hard as a piracy measure and it drives me crazy as well. Perfectly good audio ruined the moment I plug my mic in.

[–] pearsche@lemdro.id 1 points 1 year ago

I use Linux full time since 2020, and have known it since 2013~, but I don't ever recommend it to anyone. It's full of papercuts.

[–] MysticKetchup@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I feel like I get closer and closer every day, but video games still keep me anchored down

[–] dlhextall@sh.itjust.works 13 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Have you heard of our Lord and Savior, Proton?

[–] chaorace@lemmy.sdf.org 7 points 1 year ago

In the holy GNU scripture, we predict the second coming of Proton who will one day return to vanquish the evil Electron.

[–] seejur@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Out of curiosity: can you mod the game in Linux?

[–] EddyBot@feddit.de 6 points 1 year ago

sure, Steam workshop works even identical
otherwise the game data paths are different