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Kenya: Mass concentration camps and mass murder, though more for control than to destroy a social group. Perhaps not genocide, but certainly grave crimes against humanity.
Scotland: Not letting the SNP have a second referendum? Scotland was our comrade in arms for all the worst parts of British imperialism.
India: Bengal Famine was orchestrated by Britain knowing the consequences would be mass death, there is a good argument that this was therefore genocide. Not historical consensus but very much possibly so.
Iran: ???. I guess overthrow of Mossadegh which was bad but not genocide, of course. (EDIT: see reply to this).
Ireland: Orchestrated a famine knowing it would result in the death of a large portion of the population. Most likely genocide.
Australia/Tasmania: Extremely clear case of genocide, almost consensus within the field of Genocide Studies.
Malaysia: Mass internment in concentration camps, considerable extrajudicial killing. Not genocide, but crimes against humanity most certainly.
So that's a pretty bad record for the old Brits.
The iran one is ww1 and 2. The british invaded iran and cofiscated grain. In the 19th century irans population was equivalent to the otoman empire. That is turkey +iraq +the levant +some of the balkans. Now iys about half. Similar to what hapoen to irland (the ratio of its populayion to nearby countries halved). So somewhete between 6 and 13 million people died(half of iranians). But because there is less data i jave argued with genocide denialists even on hexbear.
Oh my bad, I didn't know about that at all. I need to learn more, clearly.
Maybe they are talking about the Highland Clearance?
Forced migration counts as a crime against humanity, which I guess covers enclosure and the Highland clearances. I'm not sure if that's genocide though. Maybe cultural genocide against Scots and Gaelic and so on? I don't think the Harrying of the North went into Scotland, but that was definitely genocide.
Well since the EU and US are now firm on the Holodomor being a genocide, by that same definition (that plays very fast and loose with genocidal intent) most Indian famines and the Irish potato famine are almost certainly genocides.
Yeah if you consider the Holodomor a genocide you absolutely MUST consider the Indian and Irish Famines a genocide. It would be ludicrous otherwise.