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[–] areyouevenreal@lemmy.antemeridiem.xyz 13 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Why is lemmy turning into MLs vs liberals? From my perspective their both questionable groups. Furthermore I don't think it's actually helpful or constructive outside of political communities to discuss this kind of thing. Not everyone actually has a side in politics to begin with.

[–] Amaltheamannen@lemmy.ml 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Not everyone left of centre is a ML. Liberals are not left wing.

[–] areyouevenreal@lemmy.antemeridiem.xyz 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Not everyone left of centre is a ML.

I never said that they were. It primarily seems to be MLs attacking liberals and everyone attacking MLs.

Liberals are not left wing.

Depends when and in which country you're talking about. In America at current they are an odd party that don't seem to stand for much, in the past they have been more left wing. In other countries I am not really sure as liberal isn't a well defined term like neoliberal or libertarian is. You could take it to mean socially liberal in which case it could be a left or right wing position much like a libertarian could be.

[–] Amaltheamannen@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Ask literally any person outside the US and liberal means centre-right

I don't live in and have never been to the US.

[–] abraxas@beehaw.org 2 points 1 year ago

Sure, but you see a lot of MLs using the word "liberal" like Amish use the word "English". I got called a filthy liberal (or similar) at least 5 times in a recent discussion on lemmy.ml because I didn't support their treating Biden as worse than Trump.

It seems a good number of MLs will use the word "liberal" to mean both versions when it suits them. At least in America.

[–] cacheson@kbin.social 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You're perhaps not wrong about the choice of community, especially after the hexbear fiasco. OP isn't an ML though, they're an anarchist.

[–] NotSpez@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

What is an ML? I really don’t know.

[–] areyouevenreal@lemmy.antemeridiem.xyz 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Marxist-Leninist. A subset of communists that generally follow Lenin, Stalin and sometimes others.

[–] NotSpez@lemm.ee 4 points 1 year ago