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[โ€“] MJBrune@beehaw.org 16 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Unpaid overtime is usually illegal too. Highly depends on your position though. A lot of software engineers are marked as exempt when they shouldn't be.

[โ€“] squaresinger@feddit.de 21 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The annoying thing is, depending on your job and financial situation, it hardly matters whether it's illegal or not. I'm not talking about my comfortable situation as a software engineer, but rather people working crap jobs and not having alternatives.

If you know, you'll be out of work for longer if you get fired, you basically cannot report any illegal stuff your employer is doing.

[โ€“] Hazzia@discuss.tchncs.de 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I used to work for IBM's CIC (colloquially known as the "cheap labor division") and starting pay for a junior dev was only 30k/year. If you got assigned to a contract, you were told that you had to work 44 hours/week exempt, regardless of if you had work to do or not, and everyone knew it's so they could charge the project more without actually paying the devs any extra. Needless to say I got out ASAP and have 0 intention of working for them again, in any capacity.

And they wondered why everyone kept jumping ship right after getting those nice required onboarding certs onto their resumes...