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[–] atlasraven31@lemm.ee 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (7 children)

Helicopters, drones, and metals they won't be able to use at Taiwan.

[–] AntiOutsideAktion@hexbear.net 43 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Why do you want to end the world so badly?

[–] atlasraven31@lemm.ee -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Plan for the worst, hope for the best

[–] AntiOutsideAktion@hexbear.net 43 points 1 year ago

You can't claim to be hoping for the best when you're the one making provocations.

[–] somename@hexbear.net 34 points 1 year ago

Hopefully the United States doesn’t continue to escalate tensions in regards to the island.

[–] Fuckass@hexbear.net 30 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Lol, I highly doubt china will be desperate enough to use consumer level drones and scopes to take over Taiwan given how many soldiers they have with real military equipment.

But even if they are desperate, what makes you think they won’t just seize the factories and pump out 20x the number being shipped to Russia and Ukraine, and the rest of the world? Not to mention, I don’t think China is dumb enough to go to war while Russia is busy at a completely different war, so I really don’t think a couple thousand shitty drones will make a difference 5-10 years from now

[–] atlasraven31@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Russia's military strength has been degrading since the war began. How long do you wait with your ally losing strength? Sure, you could prop him up but then that's a drain on your economy. If you postpone indefinitely, the situation may change to be even more unfavorable.

[–] GarbageShoot@hexbear.net 22 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Generally speaking, China benefits from stalling for as long as possible. The power of the imperial core is waning, so if China can navigate things such that the US -- due to its own economic dependency on imperialism -- crumbles to a much lower stature without the US launching nukes, then its influence in the world will become a shadow of what it was and reunification without firing a shot may be viable.

[–] culpritus@hexbear.net 16 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

without the US launching nukes

I was just talking about this today. China is leading towards a multi-polar world very effectively, but the US is the only nation to have used nukes in history. Really puts things in stark relief.

[–] Frank@hexbear.net 16 points 1 year ago

Plus the leadership in DC are senile psychopaths who have at best a loose grasp on world affairs. And that's just the Democrats. The GOP are increasingly all fascists completely divorced from reality. Real "Sick old man" hours, except unlike the Ottomans DC has enough nukes to flash-fry the planet if the wrong corpse-lich has a stroke at the right time.

[–] Fuckass@hexbear.net 22 points 1 year ago

China has waited centuries to get Hong Kong back and decades for Taiwan. What’s another 10 years? Why would they do some reckless shit like invasion when they’re still in the process of courting neighbors? All the superpowers are observing this war right now to see each other’s abilities, and the war hasn’t been finished yet. There’s no material benefit to invading anyone right now

[–] ThereRisesARedStar@hexbear.net 28 points 1 year ago

Helicopters, drones, and metals they won't be able to use at Taiwan.

Because their plan for reunification is peaceful, which a military invasion would make more difficult.

[–] zephyreks@programming.dev 11 points 1 year ago

Oh no! Not the DJI Mavic Pro! Whatever will they do without

*4/3 CMOS Hasselblad Camera *Dual Tele Cameras *Cine Only Tri-Camera Apple ProRes Support

[–] Kbobabob@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Not sure that makes it any better. Oppressing a country vs. helping oppress a country.

[–] atlasraven31@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

It:s a shame because supplying that gear to Ukraine would have helped China's reputation on the international stage and bolstered trade. It would have not been well received by the Kremlin but a losing army can't invade anyone else.

[–] zephyreks@programming.dev 2 points 1 year ago

They are, though?

People are going on AliExpress and buying stuff. This is neither new nor illegal. Chinese companies live in a capitalist market just like everyone else.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/national/daily/nov98/nazicars30.htm

[–] awwwyissss@lemm.ee 0 points 1 year ago

China and Russia are working together to overthrow the relatively democratic, rules-based US-Euro hegemony. That's why they announced their super duper special forever friendship shortly before Putin started his latest genocidal land grab.

[–] IllNess@infosec.pub 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Politically it's better. Ukraine has 16 countries that committed over a billion Euros. We're not how many countries would back Taiwan.

[–] jcit878@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

the difference is in Taiwan's case america would be directly involved and have already committed to this, it is likely Japan would also and some other countries are likely to contribute to. china wouldn't have a hope

[–] redtea@lemmygrad.ml -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

In every simulation, China wipes the floor with the US in a conventional war against the mainland. You can look it up if you like.

[–] jcit878@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

already have, and every simulation says the opposite. dunno what nonsense you been looking at

edit: oh, lemmygrad. nevermind

[–] redtea@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 1 year ago

Let's hope we never have to find out who's right.

[–] Rayleigh@feddit.de 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I mean over a billion Euros is technically correct, the actual number however is more like 150 to 200 billion Euros

[–] IllNess@infosec.pub 1 points 1 year ago

Sorry, I meant over a billion Euros each. The US is at over €70 billion alone.

[–] mihor@lemmy.ml -5 points 1 year ago

Of our hard-earned money, those degenerate warmongers (I'm looking at you, Urszula)!

[–] SeborrheicDermatitis@hexbear.net 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

China isn't about to invade Taiwan anyway. Not much strategic gain + the Chinese leadership is smarter than the Russian one.

[–] atlasraven31@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago

Here's hoping. How do you think they will solve their naval border disputes with neighboring countries?