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[–] stereofony@lemm.ee 15 points 1 year ago (3 children)

From a fellow trans person: I know you mean well, but shame/ridicule is the least effective agent of change. This kind of attitude I hear not just from you but other leftist queer friends just straight up leaves a bad taste in people's mouths and does nothing to convince folks of your cause, no matter how good your intentions are. To quote a Tshirt I once saw: Kindness is more punk rock than a middle finger.

Collective care and justice should be rooted in compassion, not denigration and superiority complexes.

[–] Kuori@hexbear.net 24 points 1 year ago (2 children)

yeah we are pretty pro-bullying people who are doing shitty things over on hexbear, this isn't going to land

[–] ThereRisesARedStar@hexbear.net 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I'm more on the "bullying bad, shaming with explanation of how to fix your behavior good" train myself, at least when the goal isn't just to make shitheads be quiet.

[–] Kuori@hexbear.net 11 points 1 year ago

i get you, my issue is that we're beyond the event horizon, you know? these people have had the explanations. they don't care, and their not caring kills innocent people. as far as i'm concerned, it's open season on shitheads.

[–] ThereRisesARedStar@hexbear.net 19 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

superiority complexes.

TIL needing to mask for health reasons is a superiority complex.

I'm not going to address any of the rest of your comment except to say, stop tone policing a shitpost. The point was to vent about a genuine frustration, not to convince anyone.

[–] stereofony@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Sorry, but somewhere along the way in leftist circles, "don't tone police me" became synonymous with "I'm allowed to be as shitty as I want to other people because of my trauma" and that's the behavior I can't get down with. Trauma is an explanation, not an excuse.

[–] ThereRisesARedStar@hexbear.net 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Wait so what trauma are you using to justify your shitty behavior? And you never asked me not to tone police you?

[–] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 5 points 1 year ago

To quote a Tshirt I once saw: Kindness is more punk rock than a middle finger.

Wow. Everything you said before this swayed me but this is such an awesome statement that I had to say thanks for expanding my vernacular.