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[–] PowerCrazy@lemmy.ml 24 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Tesla's are shit cars though, and it has nothing to do with Musk. They have little to no driver feedback. The UX of their driver control systems are unresponsive and require the driver to take their eyes from the road. The idea of self-driving cars is a pipe dream that solves zero problems and simply aggravates existing individual transport problems.

[–] ThePac@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Counterpoints:

  • Cosmetic build quality issues aside, they require practically zero maintenance (tires and windshield fluid) and there are less moving parts to break. So far they've proven to be very reliable.
  • Driver feedback is subjective and I find your claim straight-up obtuse in meaning. I quite enjoy windy roads and the smoothness of the EV drivetrain.
  • The UX of my Tesla is practically-perfectly responsive and most of what you want to do has either physical or voice controls.
  • Autopilot is good bordering great but still needs work. FSD is indeed a pipe dream with the current fleet.
  • It's fast as fuck.
[–] UlyssesT@hexbear.net 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] ThePac@lemmy.ml -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Lol seriously? My passengers find the manual release by accident the first time they go to get out. It's exactly where you would expect it to be.

"Extra! Extra! Some people are idiots!"

Keep trying, bud.

[–] UlyssesT@hexbear.net 12 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Keep trying, bud.

What are you even doing on the FuckCars section of this site anyway? Do you want to be congratulated for your sunk-cost fallacy cope

"Extra! Extra! Some people are idiots!"

Some people say smug things like that, but then spend a lot of money on bad purchases and need to tell internet strangers that those bad purchases must be good purchases and any evidence to the contrary is from a bad source because it isn't a Tesla circlejerk in your favor. fry

[–] Fuckass@hexbear.net 7 points 1 year ago

Toyotas require virtually zero maintenance as well. The difference is that when you do need maintenance, it doesn’t cost a kidney and you can find a shop anywhere with the parts and expertise, or do it yourself at home

it’s fast as fuck

How is this a good thing? 40,000 deaths in America due to cars. Every year.

UX is perfect

Lol. Everything is in the center of the car instead of right in front of me

[–] nat_turner_overdrive@hexbear.net 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Cosmetic build quality issues aside, they require practically zero maintenance (tires and windshield fluid) and there are less moving parts to break. So far they've proven to be very reliable.

This applies to all electric cars, this isn't exclusive to Tesla. And other electric cars don't have panel gaps.

Driver feedback is subjective and I find your claim straight-up obtuse in meaning. I quite enjoy windy roads and the smoothness of the EV drivetrain.

The Tesla drives like an appliance, particularly in comparison to what are often considered "driver's cars". Nothing wrong with it, but don't expect car enthusiasts to like it.

The UX of my Tesla is practically-perfectly responsive and most of what you want to do has either physical or voice controls.

most

voice controls

Physical buttons are superior, and have been for decades. Voice controls and touchscreens are decisions made on a budget basis, not a UX basis, because they are objectively worse. It's corner-cutting, not improvement.

Autopilot is good bordering great but still needs work. FSD is indeed a pipe dream with the current fleet.

Are you calling Musk a liar?!? FSD has been coming "next year" for like six years now!!!

[–] ThePac@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Are you calling Musk a liar?!?

Literally yes.

Dang you managed to be right on one thing, congrats

[–] RegularGoose@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago

It’s fast as fuck.

Translates as: "I drive like an absolute cunt."