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[–] interdimensionalmeme@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago (3 children)

They say they provide curation of content, keep out lawyers and provide an incentive to seed.

In practice none of these are provided.

What they really are, are entities who sell access to copyright infringement material.

They discourage network effect free sharing. They discourage posting content with investors rules and they impede seeding by creating a zero sum economy where nobody wants to download anything unless they really have to because you won't be able too seed your ratio back to 1 as everybody tries to seed and nobody disappears.

It leads to the ridiculous practice of downloading whatever gets posted on the RSS feed, just so you can seed it to other people who blind download stuff just to seed it. Basically a pump and dump scheme where someone always end up holding the bag.

All this to motivate people to buy their ratio back. I've seen one recent case they were charging 20$ to free leech 80gb.

In other words private trackers are shit, kill private trackers with DHT

[–] silent_clash@lemmygrad.ml 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Some of them have freeleech on some torrents. TorrentLeech has freeleech on every torrent over a certain size (I think 15 GB) + Box Sets of any size and then you just have to seed for 10 days total, then you can stop without penalty to your ratio. I have never paid money to TorrentLeech for access. I suppose this would change quickly if I was downloading individual episodes of a new show or 10 to 14.99 GB torrents, but that's not my usual usage pattern.

I will say that some of your criticism is correct. I will often avoid using the private tracker to avoid having to seed for 10 days. I can't get to a 1.0 ratio on private trackers, but I can on public ones, but freeleech seeding adds to my ratio with no penalty for downloading. The zero-sum vibe is both real and off-putting.

I currently have a ratio surplus of 34 GB, and it started me with 25 GB. The benefit is if I really want something, it's easy to access

[–] interdimensionalmeme@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

I seed 5tb per month, the limit of my seedbox. All on public trackers since if they were private torrents, the seedbox would just sit idle.

[–] Chriskmee@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

I've never had an experience like that on private trackers. Of the three I've used recently, one has no ratio tracking and just a "gentlemen's agreement" that you seed back. One tracks ratio but doesn't care about it, they only care that you seed back for X hours during a two week period or something like that, and the last one does track ratio, but you also get points for just seeding content even if nobody downloads from you, and you can use those points to get upload credit. None require a 1:1 ratio on anything.

I've never had problems keeping a good ratio on any of these sites, I just let them seed from my media server until I decide to delete them. I even use a fairly small upload bandwidth since my service provider only gives me like 10Mbps upload.

[–] Slimy_hog@programming.dev 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Lol, what kinds of shitty private trackers are you on?

[–] interdimensionalmeme@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

411, ygg, bunch of others that made me jump hoops to join and then had those shitty policies. I stopped using private trackers a long time ago.

I equate private tracker with shit tracker and not worth my time nor my seedbox bandwidth.

DHT should have made trackers obsolete. We should have torrents of torrent files.