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[–] Shrike502@lemmygrad.ml 18 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Why do these people celebrate being leeches to society and seemingly aren’t self-aware?

Because a person's goal in a capitalist system is to do nothing while getting everything. To ascend from the exploited to the exploiter. It's wrapped in rosy language such as "passive income", but that's what it is. If a person can be a neet outside their parents' basement (which seems to be the case in what you describe), one must ask where's the money coming from

I have this feeling that I've had conversations that had friction and I couldn't tell why because I've internalized this notion. Ive also been provocative in saying that there's no such thing as rewards for hard work and doing good for society is entirely separate from making enough. Or popping off with saying NEET would be the highest aspiration short of destroying the system and getting justice for the exploitation.

[–] basedposter@lemmygrad.ml 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

If a person can be a neet outside their parents’ basement (which seems to be the case in what you describe), one must ask where’s the money coming from

I am a “neet” because of a severe mental disorder I have. I'm going to depend on the welfare system my whole life. In this situation, you are no different from a Nazi. You want people like us to die? That’s literally social darwinism which is Nazi ideology. Your comment is inhumane, as are you and all the privileged people who approve of it.

[–] GrainEater@lemmygrad.ml 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I think you're making a huge assumption here. The context was people who choose to move to a different country to live off of "passive income", not people who are unable to work. Don't jump straight to calling someone "no different from a Nazi" without verifying their intentions

[–] basedposter@lemmygrad.ml 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It was clear what they had in mind with the basement comment. Good old lazy neckbeard stereotype...

[–] GrainEater@lemmygrad.ml 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

maybe there is some prejudice involved in the basement comment (I can't speak for Shrike in that regard), but there's a big difference between that and comparing someone to a Nazi

[–] UnicodeHamSic@hexbear.net 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

We want the government to provide ample services so everyone, you included, can live in dignity.

We don't like seeing otherwise productive people exploit poor and marginalized folks to get there. I think we can appreciate the difference in quality there