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[–] SnowdropDelusion@lemm.ee -3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

~~“Breonna Taylor Was Asleep.” Yes, she was asleep the night/morning of the shooting. No, she was not asleep when she was shot.~~

She was gravely wronged, and what happened is entirely inexcusable. However, statements that confuse people on the facts of the situation do not help the cause.

Edit: It seems my memory was faulty, per Walker's statement, they were watching a movie in bed when police came to the door.

Source: Courier Journal - Local Newspaper

[–] bauhaus@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

like he said:

getting your door kicked in by a gang of cops about to shoot you to death tends to wake a person up

[–] SnowdropDelusion@lemm.ee -4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Like I said:

She was gravely wronged, and what happened is entirely inexcusable. However, statements that confuse people on the facts of the situation do not help the cause.

[–] bauhaus@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

statements that confuse people on the facts of the situation

where did I do this?

[–] SnowdropDelusion@lemm.ee -2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Well, for one thing it turns out Breonna Taylor wasn't even asleep.

Source: Courier Journal - Local Newspaper

[–] bauhaus@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

getting your door kicked in by a gang of cops tends to wake you up

[–] SnowdropDelusion@lemm.ee -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm referring to the witness statements given by Walker.

[–] bauhaus@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

what statements of his say that she wasn’t sleeping?

[–] SnowdropDelusion@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I don't know. How about the one where he said they were watching a movie?

[–] bauhaus@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

people fall asleep watching movies all the time, especially late at night which this was.

I don’t see any statement claiming she wasn’t sleeping, as you claim.

[–] SnowdropDelusion@lemm.ee -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Look, it's not like we have a recording of their bedroom at the time of the incident. Do you have a source for your claim that she was asleep?

[–] bauhaus@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I’m not responsible for your lack of evidence. now you even admit you don’t have evidence to back up your claims, and you accuse ME of bad faith?

lmao

[–] SnowdropDelusion@lemm.ee 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Look, I think it is clear that there is no amount of evidence that will make you change your mind on this.

Walker clearly said they were watching a movie, which you choose to interpret as they were probably asleep. I choose to interpret it more literally as they were actually watching a movie.

The preponderance of evidence suggests they were watching a movie, and there is no evidence saying they were asleep, only that they "could" have been asleep.

[–] bauhaus@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

if you had presented any evidence, it might have, but you didn't

[–] SnowdropDelusion@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This just in, witness testimony ≠ evidence.

[–] bauhaus@lemmy.ml -2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

as soon as you have any that says, “she wasn’t sleeping”, let me know

[–] SnowdropDelusion@lemm.ee 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You know whoever types the last comment has clearly won right? /s

[–] bauhaus@lemmy.ml -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

that sounds like a personal problem for you

[–] SnowdropDelusion@lemm.ee -2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Oh, I'm just having fun here. Sorry if this is upsetting to you. I do like having the last comment though I have to admit.

[–] bauhaus@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Sorry if this is upsetting to you

projecting your feelings onto me isn’t healthy

I do like having the last comment though I have to admit.

sound like another personal problem

[–] SnowdropDelusion@lemm.ee 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Lol. I do have feelings, I'm not upset, I'm definitely not projecting, but I may be misidentifying your feelings.

Still, I am certain you want the last word in our conversation.

[–] bauhaus@lemmy.ml -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

another list of your personal problems.

best of luck with that

[–] SnowdropDelusion@lemm.ee 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

best of luck indeed

I wish you well in all your personal problems.

[–] bauhaus@lemmy.ml -1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I wish you well in all your personal problems.

there’s that projection again.

[–] SnowdropDelusion@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Lol. I'm beginning to think you don't even know what the word projection means.

[–] bauhaus@lemmy.ml -1 points 1 year ago

more of your personal problems

[–] SnowdropDelusion@lemm.ee 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Ah, so just narcissism then. Got it 😅 😅

[–] bauhaus@lemmy.ml -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

more of your personal problems

[–] SnowdropDelusion@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

You stuck?

I'm personally curious to see how deep the replies can go on Lemmy. The app on my phone already crapped out.

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

[shit I don't mean]. However,

I didn't miss r/publicfreakout.

[–] SnowdropDelusion@lemm.ee -3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Sorry, I'm a bit confused as to what you are saying?

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Simple. It's some of the worst behavior on reddit, on a garbage sub full of garbage people.

Basically someone who loves it when cops murder black people for them is like "It's totally an awful thing that this happened, but" and then launch into a defense of whatever racist piece of shit is the topic of discussion.

Too bad that shit can't stay on reddit where shit belongs.

[–] SnowdropDelusion@lemm.ee -3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

What are you even talking about? Is that what you are assuming I am saying?

If so, what specifically did I say that led you to believe this?

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

What are you even talking about?

I already explained it. I'm not wasting more effort on you.

[–] SnowdropDelusion@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I was giving you the benefit of the doubt before properly responding because sometimes I misinterpret people, and sometimes they misinterpret me.

I am very upset about Breonna Taylor's killing, and I think that the facts of the situation matter deeply. Truth matters deeply. Justice matters deeply.

So kindly, go fuck yourself and your assumptions about me.

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I knew you needed no further explanation.

I am very upset about Breonna Taylor’s killing

So much that you've spent an inordinate amount of time and effort engaging in nitpicky defense of her murderers.

[–] SnowdropDelusion@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Go fuck yourself you presumptuous asshole.

Nothing I have said defends the officers who killed Breonna Taylor, and your words do not make that a reality.

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Nothing I have said defends the officers who killed Breonna Taylor

You keep going on about how utterly vitally important it was that she wasn't asleep. As though focusing on that is more important than how she was murdered by police.

Because she was murdered. By police. Who got away with it. But her life and justice matter less to you than your obsession with minutiae.

[–] SnowdropDelusion@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

You keep going on about how utterly vitally important it was that she wasn’t asleep. As though focusing on that is more important than how she was murdered by police.

This is a mischaracterization of what I am doing. I am simply responding to people like you who seem to think the specifics of a situation do not matter. They in fact do.

If you were raging at me that she was not murdered, I would engage with you about that, but that is not what is happening. Why you've felt the need to come at me says more about you than about me.

But her life and justice matter less to you than your obsession with minutiae.

Another complete mischaracterization of what I have said. You have done nothing but rage at me and make assumptions. I can care about two things at the same time.

I will repeat myself again and say go fuck yourself.

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

This is a mischaracterization of what I am doing.

If you say so. I don't feel like arguing with the same sort of person who made reddit what it is.