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[–] Rinox@feddit.it 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Well, I've always seen the dictatorship of the proletariat argument to defend the fact that every communist country ends up devolving in a dictatorship.

If you remove that excuse, then I might start thinking that the issue is with communism in itself and we might need to look around for a new theory.

[–] REEEEvolution@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Then you clearly have not understood the argument.

Btw even the CIA stated that the idea of Stalin being some megalomaniac dictator is nonsense. Turns out your entire premise is based on you not getting the topic in the first place.

[–] Rinox@feddit.it 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Or maybe you haven't? If no communist country has the dictatorship of the proletariat, a democracy or even a decentralized government like a communion of soviets, then what does it leave? Just a normal, shitty dictatorship (or pseudo-monarchy in case of NK).

Still, I don't understand the cheering for brutal dictators. Why the fuck would you what that? Saying Stalin wasn't "actually that bad" is akin to saying that about Hitler or Mussolini or Pinochet or any other brutal selfish dictator. Fuck that.

[–] REEEEvolution@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)
  1. These countries never claimed to be communist. They called and call themselves socialist.
  2. All of them Were and are Dictatorship of the Proletariat. Which can be noticed by billionaires getting sentenced to death for real evil shit, instead of going free like in out Dictatorships of the Bourgoisie. I recommend Lenins "State and Revolution" as a easy introduction.
[–] Rinox@feddit.it 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

  1. What are you even on about? What does CCP/CPC stand for in your opinion?

  2. The other commenter said they are not dictatorships of the proletariat. Make up your mind guys

[–] REEEEvolution@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)
  1. Communist Party of China. The vanguard party of the chinese proletariat, made up of scientific, revolutionary socialists (commuinists).
  2. That person was a ultraleftist. In other words a person who treats communist theory as religion, not science. Their opinion goes against the one of over 90 million communists of the CPC alone.
[–] Rinox@feddit.it 1 points 1 year ago

Yeah, he's no true Scotsman