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Really, the closest?
Remember, the Antichrist is not just "really evil person". It's "really evil person who convinces a lot of people that he's a good person and a prophet".
That is a whole lot of "probably" and "looks like" disclaimers for such an absolute claim.
So Jewish ppl?
At the time, it was more the Romans. It’s only after Rome became Christian that the narrative shifted to blame the Jews for everything.
If you're thinking of the modern pop-culture version of the anti-christ, then no.
If you compare his behaviour to how the bible actually describes the anti-christ, then yes.
According to the bible he is supposed to:
Be a divisive non-politician who comes into power against peoples expectations.
Be overly arrogant with great boastful speeches
Lead many people away from Jesus and cause them to blindly follow himself.
Lead a very powerful military nation
Publically threaten people as a common tactic
Be very focused on winning/conquering
Rise to power through collusion, lies and corruption.
His election into power will by some be seen as a miracle
Will use his power to enrich themselves and their allies
Spread lies and falsehoods as truth, general lies and deception.
It specifically says he will reward his allies with land/property
Become angry and threaten the "King of the south"(Mexico)
Be supported by some of the nations most powerful religious leaders(super churches and such support him)
See themselves as above everyone else
Disregard the needs of the most vulnerable in society
Some will rise up in protest and face violence in return
Some things that are almost too on the nose:
Only see one term
Attempt to stay in power but defeated by the legal system
Use his armed forced to remove people from a church for their own nefarious needs
During their rule there will be large inflation in food cost, while oil remains cheap
There will be a pandemic and mass death during their rule
Supposed to worship the "god of fortresses" (in reference of walls and keeping people out)
Followers will wear a mark on their forehead (maga caps)
https://www.benjaminlcorey.com/could-american-evangelicals-spot-the-antichrist-heres-the-biblical-predictions/
This is mostly tongue-in-cheek, but it's still pretty damned accurate
The Bible made predictions about oil prices?
People have been pressing olives for a long time.
Yeah, that one caught me off guard too... Pretty sure it doesn't.
The bible has a bunch of different references to oil, as it was used a lamp fuel(and some rituals).
This one refers to Revelation 6:6
From KJ or this one from the NIV
Referring to how the price of food would go up, but oil and alcohol would not.
Pretty disingenuous to suggest that has any relation to fossil fuels and using them in internal combustion engines.
But, then again, that's what Christians excel at: rationalizing their awful beliefs.
That's an interesting read, thank you! Although I would still say most points on this list still apply to many fascist dictators
I'm not sure about the point regarding "one term", surely the bible didn't know about the system of presidential terms? How exactly does it say there? Same about oil, what is the biblical equivalent?
It's all from the Benjamin Corey post I linked in a reply to the comment you're replying to. The BIble is talking about different oil-- either food, or lamp oil. 'One term's is a happy coincidence, the bible says ~3.5 years
So not at all related to fossil oil then
No, just a coincidence. Except that both are used as fuel, I suppose, though fueling very different things
Man there was this (satirical, but not inaccurate) blog about how trump actually matches many features of the anti-christ, but I can't find it now, only a bunch of blogspam copying it
this is what you're looking for.
https://www.benjaminlcorey.com/could-american-evangelicals-spot-the-antichrist-heres-the-biblical-predictions/
Change your window width to 760px to get the maximum horizontal readability on this terribly formatted website, or switch to reader mode
Brilliant! Thank you
Yes, really.
I was hoping someone would link this.
Just think about how many of the seven deadly sins (pride, greed, wrath, envy, lust, gluttony and sloth) Trump embodies. Like... fuckin' all of them?
Again, how is that special?
I'm not saying it's "special". Hypocritical, counterintuitive, ironic, sure...
What I'm saying is that Trump represents the very antithesis of what Christianity preaches. He is a very high-profile and public embodiment of their "seven deadly sins". Which, to me at least, is very anti-christ-like. I'm not sure why you need that spelled out...
I mean, if we're being all passive-aggressive I'll also happily point out that the seven deadly sins have nothing to do with the antichrist technically, they are not even mentioned in the bible afaik. So bit of a crappy argument really
Put it this way, https://www.cbsnews.com/news/what-you-need-to-know-about-666-fifth-avenue/
I agree, you don't have to look far down the road to see even worse (DeSantis).
It may be there are worse people but they are more akin to satan ~~(e.g Hitler was atheist (well not really he believed in the occult but didn't go down religion)~~. Trump claims to be some sort of Jesus figure to religious so hits some.of the "pretends to be Christ" points of.the antichrist
(Edit Hitler religious views are very complex but I still. Stand by point he less acted like "Christ" figure than trump)
I'm going to take issue with your simplification and classification of Hitler, and the wider Nazi ideology here because I think this is very important given some of the patterns we see repeating from the early 20th century. There was a lot of nuance to the public and politically expedient viewpoints that Hitler professed regarding religion throughout his life versus his private viewpoints which colored the ideological mechanisms of Nazism.
It is tacitly incorrect to state that Hitler was an occultist, or an atheist by modern convention.
Regarding Occultism: He detested the mysticism, neo-paganism, and occult underpinnings that Himler brought to the party (specifically the SS). Hitler made it very clear that he considered these viewpoints to be sophistry and repugnant to his own view of the world, but he allowed them in so far as he supported Himler as a leader of the party.
Regarding atheism: Hitler, likewise, considered atheism to be an ideological evolution of Jewish Bolshevism that he believed was essentially responsible for the rise of Soviet Communism. It is well documented from close confidants who surrounded Hitler, and wrote about his views contemporaneously that he believed atheism was an ignorant and dangerous return to the animalistic hedonism of humanity.
Why am I bothering to quibble over these distinctions? Well, for one thing because truly dangerous political leaders generally possess the intelligence, as well as tactical forethought to manipulate and twist at the very heart of the tribal labelism that proliferates through the uneducated masses of society. They then warp these convenient in-group / out-group dynamics to fit the needs of their political ambitions. We see this today, although in a much lazier fashion, with the alliance of convenience between the neo-conservative and christian nationalist movements that have proven to be a foundational undergirding to the "Trump Cult" as it were.
We should all understand the complicated historical relationship of religion and politics from the 20th century. Especially regarding the manipulation of those relationships which lead to the rise of authoritarianism on a scale never seen before or since. Lest we go down that same road again, except the next time will invariably be the last time because the power of the technological panopticon we are now capable of creating would enslave humanity or destroy our species.
PS: If you're interested in understanding the complexities of the religious and ideological positions espoused by Hitler throughout his life as well as the Nazi party as a whole this Wikipedia article on the subject is actually really good.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religious_views_of_Adolf_Hitler