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[–] ComradeEd@lemmygrad.ml 40 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

^From^ ^Voting^ ^records^ ^of^ ^the^ ^Third^ ^Committee^^:^

Recorded vote on draft resolution A/C.3/77/L.5, as orally revised and as amended - Combating glorification of Nazism, neo-Nazism and other practices that contribute to fuelling contemporary forms of racism, racial discrimination, xenophobia and related intolerance

Recorded vote on draft amendment A/C.3/77/L.52 - Amendment to draft resolution A/C.3/77/L.5

US and Ukraine voted no, on L.5. And yes on the L.52 amendment.


For reference:

The Committee then took up draft amendment β€œL.52”, which inserts a new operative paragraph, reading: β€œNotes with alarm that the Russian Federation has sought to justify its territorial aggression against Ukraine on the purported basis of eliminating neo-Nazism, and underlines that the pretextual use of neo-Nazism to justify territorial aggression seriously undermines genuine attempts to combat neo-Nazism.”

^(^^press.un.org;^ ^GA/SHC/4365^^)^

[–] nohaybanda@hexbear.net 18 points 1 year ago (2 children)

the pretextual use of neo-Nazism to justify territorial aggression seriously undermines genuine attempts to combat neo-Nazism.”

You can only fight neo-Nazis if you leave it at talking about fighting neo-Nazis. If you actually go out and do any fighting then that's just counterproductive.

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[–] redtea@lemmygrad.ml 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

CW hate crimesI wonder what the Venn diagram is for people who argue for talking Nazis out of their views and people who support (or do the work of) planting hidden barrels wrapped in razor wire and barbed wire along the US border so that asylum seekers are forced into a deadly river.

[–] MeowZedong@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Side note...

Are you saying there are people anchoring/sinking barrels wrapped in barbed wire along the US border as traps for anyone trying to cross the border? I shouldn't be surprised, that somehow racists managed to disappoint me even further, but here I am.

[–] redtea@lemmygrad.ml 2 points 1 year ago

That's right. In Texas, I believe. And the razor wire is not necessarily visible, especially in low light. So it's caught kids, pregnant women. Sickening behaviour. Here's one source: https://www.democracynow.org/2023/7/24/texas_border_abbott

[–] Galli@hexbear.net 0 points 1 year ago

As always the atomic unit of propaganda isn't lies, it's emphasis and indeed the amendment is correct that de-nazification is a transparent pretext and the invasion is counterproductive to denazification. What is demphasized here is why it's counterproductive; that Russia is/was funding their own Nazi divisions in Wagner, which must be ignored so that they can continue to not acknowledge the Nazi problem in Ukraine.

[–] Shrike502@lemmygrad.ml 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Huh, Israel voted "yes" on the L5?

[–] ComradeEd@lemmygrad.ml 5 points 1 year ago

Yes. It also voted "yes" on L.52

[–] comradePuffin@lemmygrad.ml 3 points 1 year ago

Lol the USA is the literal 4th Reich. We took in the Nazis to fight communism. Call me crazy but I'm on board with business plot 2 being the JFK assassination, and everything working out on their favor from there.