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Was just casually checking out some videos from this voice coach lady... when suddenly I find out she's trans too! Kinda makes me feel inspired, with progress like that.

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[–] ada@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Different people use different words about their transition, and I think you’re imposing your own experience onto others.

If a gender diverse person tells me that their gender changed, then their gender changed.

If a cis person is assuming that a person's gender has changed just because they transitioned, I'm going to correct them, because when held in ignorance, that's a position that is generally based on harmful ideas about the trans experience. And if they're interested in discussing it further, we can have a discussion of the nuance of how it all works.

Letting a cis person assume that all trans people's gender changes when they transition does more harm than good IMO.

But to say that the only way for trans people to be is the way you perceive them to be

I am quite explicitly not saying this. If your gender changed, it changed :)

[–] A_Very_Big_Fan@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

If a gender diverse person tells me that their gender changed, then their gender changed.

The problem is that you're assuming the past gender of trans women categorically.

But to say that the only way for trans people to be is the way you perceive them to be

I am quite explicitly not saying this.

You said:

She wasn’t born a man. Trans women don’t “become” women. They stop hiding the fact they are

I'm trying to tell you that this claim is not just wrong, but it's a harmful over-generalization. I was not a girl for the first ~12-16 years of my life, and that's why I'm telling you our identities (past and present) are ours to determine, not yours. I was a boy, I did become a girl. I was comfortably cis for a long time, but things changed as I grew up.

Reading this stuff today only serves to drag those anxieties back up, because if we assume your claim is true then I either wasn't a boy back then, or I'm not a trans woman now. I have to sit here and think about how you're wrong, and why trans people don't have to have always been trans in order to transition and be valid.

That's what motivated me to respond to you. Whether or not you're willing to grapple with the idea that you may be hurting people is your prerogative, I'm just telling you those claims have done harm to me in the past and may be harmful to others now, specifically young people.