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[–] TimewornTraveler@lemm.ee 16 points 1 year ago (3 children)

cool nazi apologia

thats a lot of words for "companies dont care about anything except money"

we get it, they followed what the country's trends did regardless of the cost

[–] OceanSoap@lemmy.ml 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

To be fair, while everyone likes to think they'd be resisting nazi rule, most people, including you, would have most likely fallen in line and at least pretended to be pro-nazi.

[–] TimewornTraveler@lemm.ee -1 points 1 year ago (2 children)
[–] qyron 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Okay, so I am from a country where we got rid of a fascist government less than 50 years ago, thus ending 4 decades of dictatorship. The memory of those days are still quite fresh in our collective memory, regardless the new right wing zealots going to far lenghts to retell a very well and publicly documented history.

And that history is an history of repression, social stagnation and political persecussion. And denunciation.

KGB, the famous KGB, created a reputation for repression by brutality but here it was impossible to tell who you could trust. Your neighbour, your loved ones, that person you encountered every day on the bus, your coworkers... besides the very easy to spot and identify agents that could at random approach you on the street, question and drag you off to the nearest police station or detention center, with no expected time to return home, if ever.

It took, technically a military coup, an inside job, to take this repressive regime. Luckily, it was never their intention to instate a military junta and democracy was instead established.

People could either support, tolerate or endure the regime. There was no other options. Thousands conspired for decades and died in the process. The slightest suspicion and any one could end behind bars, deported to one of the colonies, where prison conditions were even worse, as if such thing could be possible or simply gone, occasionally dragged out of their house, in the middle of the night, in a very loud and public exibition of force for everyone to see and never to comment but by whispers.

That is how fascism, and by extension, any dictatorship enforces complacency.

Not many are willing to become heroes and even less survive to tell the tale. The notion that when dark times arise a great hero will come is an hollywood creation.

[–] OceanSoap@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Okay, so the people at the top of that company were terrified for their lives too. Everyone complied or died. They chose to comply. Just like you would have.

Do I think the money earned during that time should be given to survivors and their families? Yes. Do I blame them for complying? No.

[–] TimewornTraveler@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

You conveniently omit the third group: the ones that perpetrate and take advantage of the narrative for their own gain.

If "we'd all be nazis", maybe we all deserve criticism. That's not a defense.

[–] Rilichu@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Thousands might be being murdered a day in death camps but at least the shareholders are happy.

[–] qyron 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

You mean like Nike in Bangladesh, but without the wire fences and just through the use of police enforced and government backed brutality, when the workers tried to rally for better work conditions?

[–] qyron 1 points 1 year ago

Answer this first, please: are you that hellbent on pilling face value criticism to any thing that somehow refers "nazi", no matter how vaguely related and thinly connect to it or am I that hard to understand in my comment, where I openly state the heinous acts that regime enacted, due to my poor use of choice of words?