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Hello guys, I have noticed that all the big internet services are starting to get worse and worse. And I am forced to migrate to foss alternatives. I have moved from Windows to OpenSUSE, from Reddit to Lemmy, etc. But I have an issue with moving from youtube. It is not that my favourite channels are not bringing me alternative they do but it is somewhat fragmented. Some of them are on PeerTube, some on Floatplane, and some on Nebula and I would rather pay those than youtube. My issue is that each of these has its app and I would like to have them united in one app to which I link all my accounts to. Does something like this exist?

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[–] AB7ORH7D@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago (6 children)

If I may offer a new way to think about things - YouTube ads support creators by allowing them to make a living making their videos. It's quite different than Facebook, Instagram, and Reddit, where a company is just hosting and monetizing people discussing and sharing things with each other. If you want to see good content, YouTube decentralized alternatives will really only take off if there is some sort of crowd funding going to creators. Which would most likely take the form of a subscription. And...that is essentially YouTube premium anyway. And I might add that I've had YouTube premium for years and it's my favorite subscription I have across the entire internet.

[–] Tiritibambix@lemmy.ml 14 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

YouTube is making millions off the back of creators. They're not helping them apart from giving them some level of visibility in the unfair jungle that the algorithm is.

A form a subscription to your favorite creator on a platform like LBRY, ~~Odyssey~~ Odysee, Peertube goes directly to the creators without feeding the awful beast that google already is.

The problem is visibility. YouTube owns the monopoly of popular videos, and if we want alternatives to work, we need to support independent creators by tipping them, spreading the word and boycotting google.

That's how we'll see good content, without ads.

[–] JohnDClay@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago

YouTube is also probably spending billions on storing and streaming videos. YouTube is slowly enshitifying, but it's much much less far along than other platforms that have gone that way recently.

[–] Akasazh@feddit.nl 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)

I've subbed to nebula, hope more creators move there.

At Google I'm already the product so I'm not paying them if I can. And for now I can.

[–] maegul@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago

I hope nebula figure out a way to hook into the fediverse, as there’s an overlapping ethos with the fediverse and anything they can do to get more subscribers for the content creators there should be done.

Of course they’re paid subscriber only, which isn’t quite what the Fedi is used to, but IMO, it really should mature into accepting paid subscriptions as normal so long as the governing institutions are creator owned, non-profit style bodies.

Directly integrating their content into the feed where you can only watch it with the appropriate authentication, but can still cross post or link it or discuss it, would be cool.

[–] Blaze@sopuli.xyz 2 points 1 year ago

I'm considering to give it a try too. Have to look up their business model more and how much creators make there.

[–] Dariusmiles2123@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I’m also considering a try, but first could you tell me if you find all type of videos? I’m into Linux, PlayStation, basketball, cars and (paradoxically) ecology. Usually on other platforms than YouTube I tend to find only geeky stuff..

[–] Akasazh@feddit.nl 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah there's not really a lot there on gaming stuff. I mean theres very few things in comparison to youtube. But I wanted to support it and happy to do so, but it pales in comparison.

However, just like comparing Lemmy to reddit, an alternative has to start somewhere, you can't expect it to be the same overnight.

[–] Dariusmiles2123@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Thanks a lot for your answer. I might try for a few months then.

Well I’m starting on Nebula right now and sadly the content isn’t there yet.

Maybe it’ll come but I found more things which interest me on Odysee or Dailymotion for now.

Still I really like the idea of paying for a subscription and not being the product anymore.

[–] gabrielbckr@mastodon.social 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

@Akasazh
What have you been watching there so far?
@AB7ORH7D

[–] Akasazh@feddit.nl 2 points 1 year ago

Practical engineering, extra history and legal eagle are the most prominent YouTube migrators for me.

Real engineering and city nerd I've discovered there

[–] DogMuffins@discuss.tchncs.de 6 points 1 year ago

Ads just suck all the way up and down. I don't want to support anyone who makes money, even indirectly, from advertising.

[–] ililiililiililiilili@lemm.ee 4 points 1 year ago

Don't rely on YouTube to pass money to your favorite content creators. Most have their own site (where they sell merch or have a way to donate directly to them). Your Premium subscription goes right in Google's pocket. I'm sticking with YouTube Revanced and SmartTube.

[–] Fabrik872@apollo.town 3 points 1 year ago

Yes i agree that creators need money for their great work but i will prefer to pay them through floatplane or nebula or patreon because with yt premium you also support google and i really dont like what they are doing recently with chrome but that is topic for another time.

[–] kimpilled@infosec.pub 2 points 1 year ago

Podcasts seem to have figured out monetizing without centralization.