this post was submitted on 06 Aug 2023
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I'm gonna be honest here: It's not.
This is like someone posting "homemade is so much better than eating out" and then they post a picture of a pickles, spam and mayo sandwich.
I mean sure, homemade can be better, but what you just posted isn't. I'm sure you like it, though. But it doesn't have general appeal at all.
Look, there's a reason most of the canvas is blank.
But you probably like the lack of activity.
So enjoy it, I guess.
All occurrences of Reddit place after the first were heavily botted. The first one was the best one IMO.
I think this speaks to a general difference between Reddit and Lemmy that we've all experienced: on Reddit, you can participate with a massive community, but your voice will likely be drowned out by everyone else plus all the bots. On Lemmy, you have to engage with a smaller community, but you can be sure your voice will be heard in that community.
With Reddit place, you probably couldn't point to the finished product and say "that pixel right there is one I placed" unless you were exceptionally lucky. With canvas, you absolutely can, but as you rightly pointed out the work itself is less impressive looking.
The first one was botted as well near the end. I know because I wrote a tool to do it in about an hour using my private bot farm I had been building for years. I never gave it to anyone else because it was sloppy and integrated with the bot creation tools I had, and that would have revealed all of the tricks I used to create and protect the bot hoarde. But I used it myself, and I assume I was far from the only one with the same idea.
The interesting thing is that reddit basically condoned it. They are usually pretty decent at detecting bots if you don't take measures to make them look human, but with place (at least the first time) they seemed to intentionally have that functionality disabled. I kind of assumed that they doing it specifically as a bit detection scheme, but they never cleaned house afterwards like I expected.
Reddit actively encouraged bots and automation during the original r/place:
https://www.redditinc.com/blog/how-we-built-rplace/
Yeah - one of the great things about place was the sheer scale of the community. If you have a broad range of even pretty obscure interests, there was a chance you could find most of them on there burried away. In the previous few iterations, I must've helped like twelve different little things ranging from super well known video game murals to tiny little pixel art for obscure Japanese artists.
In the '22 place, I helped lead a team to make a tiny 15×15 thing for our favourite kinda forgotten character from a game and it was an uphill battle but it was memorable. Here? That tiny 225 pixel face is the only rep for genshin impact and I miss the fun of planning something because it's just me. Sure I could make something big (and I have expanded it to include other characters) by myself...but like, I want to make stuff for other groups and fandoms too, and I'm the only person who'll do it.
Don't get me wrong, the canvas is fun and it's not really the hoster's fault, but it's missing the collaboration part
Tldr: 'better' is subjective
Btw, have you checked canvas recently?
I can imagine some humble pie needs to be consumed.
Shhh. Just let people enjoy things.
You're missing the point entirely 😀
The title being sarcastic?