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[โ€“] Robertej92@lemmy.world 26 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I drive on a lot of rural roads in the UK, mainly Wales, most of the time I'm just happy when the road has space for two cars to squeeze through and some visibility for what's coming around the corner of that rural lane. Actual physical lines separating the lanes? Oh boy it's my birthday. Yet with all that, we have a death rate per 100 million miles of just over a third of somewhere like the US, so I'd imagine the size of cars and inadequate licence requirements are probably bigger issues for road safety

[โ€“] Schlemmy@lemmy.ml 9 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I can't remember which episode it was but in the Cautionary Tales podcast by Tim Harford a guest once explained that cars are too safe. Through the years we blamed cars for not being safe when people get hurt but few alterations were made to our behaviour if you campagne it to the advances they've made in car safety. If imminent death would follow everytime we made a mistake people would be more careful. That's how I feel about the roads in Wales. The lack of oversight made me be more cautious. That and the fact that I normally drive at the other side of the road.

[โ€“] lotanis@discuss.tchncs.de 17 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The general concept you're describing is called Risk Compensation. It feels intuitively correct, but in whatever context it's been studied in almost all cases it turns out that the safety feature is actually better overall. Some people might be a bit riskier knowing about the safety net, but not enough to counteract the safety improvement.

Also - in the UK - road deaths go down over time, while miles driven goes up. Driving is getting safer. Cars are part of that, but so is road nd signal design and driver training.

[โ€“] alsimoneau@lemmy.ca 0 points 1 year ago

Actually a positive correlation has been found between the amount of roadway lighting and car accidents. More streetlights cause more crashes.

[โ€“] Robertej92@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

I drive a little Skoda so I'm very cautious on those little roads, don't have the same feeling of safety as the great big SUVs that barrel along

Rural Scotland has a lot of single-track roads. One lane for two directions, 50mph speed limit, with pull-offs every few hundred feet so cars can stop and let others pass. FUNโ„ข.