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Tesla Hackers Find ‘Unpatchable’ Jailbreak to Unlock Paid Features for Free::A group of security researchers claim to have found an "unpatchable" jailbreak for some Tesla vehicles, potentially unlocking in-car purchases

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[–] TIEPilot@lemmy.world 111 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

This how people are gonna find out how bad of an idea to allow the manufacturer to have that much control over your car after purchase. Tesla will shut their cars off if they find them jail breaked.

Just like the guy that wasn't allowed to fix the cooling hose on the battery Tesla's only option was to replace it. A third party fixed it but he still had concerns that they would shut it off (citing safety) because he wouldn't buy a whole new battery after he fixed it. Also barring him from quick charge stations was another concern.

[–] jhulten@infosec.pub 44 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Neo-feudalism at it's best. Make them pay the manufacturing costs but also make them rent the thing they paid for

[–] AndrewZabar@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It’s where every industry is striving for. To continually get paid for something forever.

[–] jhulten@infosec.pub 1 points 1 year ago

We call them landlords until we call them compost.

[–] Scotty_Trees@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

“make them rent the things they paid for” makes my blood boil. Like paying for a Wi-Fi router each month even though after a year it’s all paid off, they’ll still just charge you for it, literally free money by the millions for them. Fuck you Comcast.

[–] JesusFistus@lemm.ee 14 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Tesla shutting off jailbreaked cars would be illegal in Europe at least

[–] ICastFist@programming.dev 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)
  • jailbreak
  • disable all traffic from certain apps
  • add all tesla domains as 0.0.0.0 on /etc/hosts, just to be sure
  • ride off into the sunset
[–] 2ez@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Couldn't they add a hardware chip that acts like a tamper seal?

[–] elscallr@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

That's the thing that gets jailbroken.

[–] ICastFist@programming.dev 1 points 1 year ago

Depending on how it's implemented, beating it will be a matter of shorting some circuits. See how PS1 and 2 were jailbroken with modchips.

[–] Buffalox@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Unless they find a legal workaround. They can probably do it, if they claim it makes the car unsafe.

[–] JesusFistus@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

They can't just claim shit when people start suing them

[–] restingboredface@wayfarershaven.eu 13 points 1 year ago (2 children)

OMIGOD please let us not have the right to repair conversation about fucking cars.

But this is probably where we are heading unfortunately.

[–] DokPsy@lemmy.world 16 points 1 year ago

It's already been done on farm vehicles, why not cars

[–] tabular@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Since it is a software lockout then we can have the software freedom conversation instead.