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My brother, who's a social democrat, claims that social democracy is not capitalism (lemmygrad.ml)

submitted 1 year ago by KrupskayaPraxis@lemmygrad.ml to c/comradeship@lemmygrad.ml

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This dude has a political science major... I tried telling him that in social democracy the workers don't own the means of production so it's still capitalism, but he doesn't listen. I remember went he stopped supporting my country's (Netherlands) neoliberal party (D66) and started supporting PvdA, our socialdemocratic party. I was hopeful that he was slowly turning to the left, but nothing's changed. What are some arguments against socialdemocracy that a social democrat might listen to?

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[–] flimsyberry@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago

You could take into account the austerity that has been a big part of the change under social democratic rule in recent history, which has been capitalistic. Privatizing medical care, public transit, etc. Which has increased prices, reduced given service, etc. Transferring public interest to private interest leads to a shift in focus, as in from serving the public to serving the owners and thus profit.