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[–] RagingNerdoholic@lemmy.ca 48 points 1 year ago (6 children)

I don't get it. Companies want to make money. Study after study proves that WFH generates greater productivity on average and, therefore, more output and more money. Surely, it must be costing more to maintain massive office buildings and overpay useless middle managers to lord over employees?

[–] dmonzel@lemmy.world 21 points 1 year ago (3 children)

They're still paying to rent/lease, and to maintain the empty office buildings. They're trying to get their money's worth, even if it ends up costing them in the long run.

[–] donut4ever@sh.itjust.works 18 points 1 year ago (1 children)

My company just sold about 90% of their buildings. Then consolidated whoever left that likes to work in office (I don't know why anyone would lol) in one building. They're still only occupying 8% of that one building.

[–] Jaysyn@kbin.social -1 points 1 year ago

My company is letting our lease expire & getting a smaller place for equipment.

[–] krayj@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They can't be dumb enough to fall for the sunk cost fallacy can they? I think it must be something else.

[–] bobs_monkey@lemm.ee 4 points 1 year ago

Control. It's all about control, because something something traditions something something profit.

[–] Chetzemoka@kbin.social 4 points 1 year ago

Yep, standard issue throwing good money after bad instead of just taking the L now and moving forward

[–] Pika@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

being devils advocate here, they probably are blinded by the reports of workers who are inefficient at remote work. I want remote work as much as the next guy, I am deeply passionate for it; but I can see why management teams would want inhouse. Easier to monitor and ~~punish~~ mentor the under-performers if you are physically present in the building. The higher ups don't generally care about stats, they only care about what issues are being brought to their plate/causing more work for them... and the underperforming workers are a pretty big additional work for them.

[–] spiderman@ani.social 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

mentor the under-performers if you are physically present in the building

how the mentoring would be different if the under-performers are in the building or they work from home?

[–] Benjaben@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

Just anecdotally, I noticed that more junior team members were FAR more willing to ask me for help with something after we were pulled back to the office. That can be mitigated with thoughtful collaboration efforts when operating fully remote, but I didn't even know they needed help until they could just pop by my desk and ask for something. And they started doing it frequently.

But to be clear, I greatly prefer full remote for myself and again, thoughtful approaches to team management can solve or mitigate a bunch of the remote work downsides, probably.

[–] sadreality@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

What is this mentoring y'all talking about lol

Is it in the thread now with us?

[–] Semi-Hemi-Demigod@kbin.social 4 points 1 year ago

It's good for companies that rent office space, but not for companies that own those offices. This is corporate landlords throwing a shitfit, and they have a lot more money and own more news outlets than companies who rent.

[–] HobbitFoot@thelemmy.club 3 points 1 year ago

There have been further studies that show that work from home may not be as productive. The science doesn't seem to be as settled.

You also may have issues with coordination where some face time would be good on an as-needed basis. It may not need to be full time in the office, but I can see wanting some in person meetings.

[–] someguy3@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 year ago

And if your employees live in a lower COL area, you can literally pay them less.

[–] eltimablo@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

They get huge tax breaks for the bodies those buildings were supposed to bring to their cities. Now that nobody's in them, those cities aren't getting the extra tax money from the office workers anymore, so they're pressuring companies to bring workers back to the office. No giant, money-thirsty corporation wants to maintain a huge, expensive office building, but they're stuck doing so unless they want to sell it at a loss and risk pissing off the owners of whatever palms they had to grease to get the deal in the first place.