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[–] CrypticFawn@lemmy.dbzer0.com 17 points 1 year ago (1 children)

All the more reason to support public transportation.

[–] nxfsi@lemmy.world -3 points 1 year ago (5 children)

The average lemming:

  • concerned about online privacy
  • strongly against digital surveillance
  • rides exclusively public transit where there is surveillance everywhere
[–] unceme@lemmy.one 8 points 1 year ago

There's cameras everywhere watching the road too if you really care that much and you better believe your car model and license plate is a much more reliable form of identifying information than a blurry face on a bus security camera.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

By 'surveillance,' do you mean a bus security camera to make sure no one is stabbing the driver? Because I'm pretty sure most of us don't have much of a problem with that. It's comprehensive government surveillance that is the problem.

[–] nxfsi@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

Unfortunately, "camera to make sure no one stabs the driver" is the exact tool used by "comprehensive government surveillance". It's something we're forced to accept.

[–] TheSaneWriter@lemmy.thesanewriter.com 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

There are fundamental differences between physical and digital surveillance, namely when you are in a public space there is no expectation of privacy because there are other people there looking at you. When there are other people there that can actually see you, a camera also watching doesn't make much of a difference.

[–] notenoughbutter@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

it does

people usually doesn't remember you unless you do some weird shit but once recorded, it will stay for the rest of eternity

[–] unceme@lemmy.one 3 points 1 year ago

If you're talking about standard security cameras usually the footage will get completely overwritten after afeew days unless there was an incident to prompt review of the footage-- and even then it usually gets deleted at some point. Its not like with social media data gathering where they're collecting all that information in order to build a personal profile of everyone-- security cameras just exist to review incidents that happen in the public realm and there's no real incentive for a public transit agency to track every single person that appears on their cameras.

[–] coltorl@programming.dev 7 points 1 year ago

There is surveillance everywhere outside, even having your own car doesn’t protect you from having your privacy encroached. That’s why I never go outside.

[–] CrypticFawn@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 year ago

I hope you don't go outside at all, with that mentality.