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In short, we aren't on track to an apocalyptic extinction, and the new head is concerned that rhetoric that we are is making people apathetic and paralyzes them from making beneficial actions.

He makes it clear too that this doesn't mean things are perfectly fine. The world is becoming and will be more dangerous with respect to climate. We're going to still have serious problems to deal with. The problems just aren't insurmountable and extinction level.

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[–] InternetTubes@lemmy.world 27 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)

lol, because it's going to stay at +1.5 degrees. Russia as a member, resolutions that no country follows, is the UN anything but a joke nowadays? And this clown, his whole argument is basically "Fear basically paralyses people, so better not create it!" We have decades of downplaying the effects and not doing anything, and his advice is to continue it!?

Fucking learn the stages of grief, because the ones were people are "paralyzed" are only intermediary. People need to know how fucking bad it's going to get if they have any chance to prepare themselves and to contribute to fighting climate check, better they go through a reality check before it comes crashing down on them. It's not the end of the world? Perhaps your privileged first world UN head salaried ass will get some reprieve, but for many people it will be the end of their world.

People will turn to populist reactionary lies and hoaxes if you are too real with them, but this needs to be considered as one of those stages of grief at the society level, and it will be much harder to address if this happens later on.

[–] mojofrododojo@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago

it's a slow boil folks, nothing's really wrong, it'll be fine.... don't hold anyone responsible or try to change the path...

[–] 5am5ep1ol@lemmy.film 9 points 1 year ago

For real. What a joke. Trying to temper the already absurdly tempered response to the dangers of climate change? Wow. What a noble cause.

Not to mention, every lame attempt humanity under the spell of capitalism takes to limit our carbon output doesn’t “help.” It just…hurts the tiniest amount less. Because we are still pumping out insane amounts of co2 and the rate we’ve slowed down is nominal at best.

And another thing! Saying “the world will not end at 1.5c” is, I mean, technically true. If humanity dies, the world doesn’t end. If humanity is almost entirely wiped out and all that’s left are a few stragglers surviving in a hellscape of our own making, the world hasn’t ended. But 1.5c has long been a significant step, and one at which the snowball effect of warming very well may kick in. “Don’t worry about what these sCiENtiStS have been saying is a significant milestone! I’m the figure head of a feeble organization that blusters on about this vitally important issue! Listen to me now. A 70 year old with little skin in the game! When have my people ever steered you wrong!?”

[–] float@feddit.de 5 points 1 year ago

Imho, we're not going to change anything big enough to make a change. We're going to adapt to whatever consequences will arise. At least the ones that have the resources to do so. Let's not talk about the poor countries..

[–] Azzurijkt@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago

This is a lit comment. Thank you! We need to grieve now so we can start moving onto the acceptance and action phase