this post was submitted on 30 Jul 2023
181 points (94.6% liked)

Ukraine

8073 readers
793 users here now

News and discussion related to Ukraine

*Sympathy for enemy combatants in any form is prohibited.

*No content depicting extreme violence or gore.


Donate to support Ukraine's Defense

Donate to support Humanitarian Aid


founded 2 years ago
MODERATORS
you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
[–] Norgur@kbin.social 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Breaking the civilian population with brute force is rarely working. See the battle of Britain, the bombs in London or the carpet bombing over Germany. It only leads to people digging in and becoming determined. Yet, little assaults like the drone one to keep the war uncomfortably close and spread a lingering feeling of insecurity might work.

[–] Entropywins@kbin.social 8 points 1 year ago

Actually it did effect the German population and they learned the war was lost and over. Also the Dutch gave up after some carpet bombing during wwii. I'd also present Hiroshima and Nagasaki. Breaking the civilian population is a goal and is often attained in total war imho...

[–] snooggums@kbin.social 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

As a response to an invasion, sure.

As a result of doing dumb shit your country started? Not so much.

[–] cryball@sopuli.xyz 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

This! Britain, Germany etc. didn't have a reasonable exit strategy for avoiding the bombing. There is a potential exit for russia.

Russian population has to understand at some level, that these events are a result of actions russia has taken in a foreign country. They didn't happen before russian leadership dragged the country into this mess. The west has also given clear signals that the sanctions and military support are a direct result of russian actions. Their magnitude is driven by russian actions and escalation.

This is a form of backlash instead of oppression. Backlash is for signaling that what you're doing is a bad idea. The other is completely different.