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[–] SpacePirate@lemmy.ml 35 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I can understand Teams in Office, particularly O365 for organizations… what I don’t get is Teams being mandatory in Windows 11…

[–] aurelian@lemmy.ml 23 points 1 year ago (6 children)

Seriously you can't have windows without having teams now?

I have a feeling when I finish rebuilding my gaming PC I'm not going to be a fan of using windows again...

[–] mrmanager@lemmy.today 17 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

A lot of us use Linux for gaming now. Supports almost all games. But for God's sake, pick a amd graphics card if you plan to do Linux gaming. Nvidia is buggy as hell.

https://www.protondb.com/explore

[–] Sloogs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Ugh. I've been wanting to switch for a while but that's a bummer to hear. I might just have to bite the bullet and deal with buggy drivers. Back when I got my monitors like 6 years ago there wasn't a ton of options for sub-5ms IPS displays with adaptive sync technology so I had to go with Acer Predators and G-Sync but now I'm kinda stuck with NVIDIA. I'm sure there's more options for monitors now but I'm not dropping that kind of money on monitors again.

Unless something has changed? Is GSync still proprietary? (Edit: looks like G-Sync does work on AMD cards now but only for newer monitors, dang.)

Ironically, I remember not long ago it was AMD that used to have the crap Linux drivers.

[–] drasticpotatoes@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Nvidia drivers aren’t nearly as bad as most make them out to be. If you already have one, I’d say give it a try anyway with a distro that offers good support for them.

[–] Owljfien@aussie.zone 5 points 1 year ago

100% this, nvidia may be scumbag dickholes, but I've never had any problems with simple gaming on Linux with nvidia.

[–] oce@jlai.lu 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Pop!_OS is often recommended as noob friendly OS for nvidia gamers https://pop.system76.com/

[–] drasticpotatoes@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Can confirm. I offer it to most of my friends who are switching and have Nvidia cards.

[–] bingbong@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

All you really have to do is make sure the distribution of Linux you're installing supports Nvidia out of the box. Their drivers are not that bad anymore, they used to be much worse.

[–] jabjoe@feddit.uk 1 points 1 year ago

Just not true. We got a reconditioned laptop with a "NVidia upgrade for free" when we order Intel for a reason. My advise was to return it. This was ignored. Regardless of open or closed, Wayland or XOrg, graphics doesn't work flawlessly. It's a case of choose your bugs. The least bugs is XOrg and closed, but it's still not prefect (artifacts with window shadows sometimes). Switch to vtty and back a few times and it will poo itself. Slowly.

For nearer the edge distros, like Debian Testing, NVidia is pretty much guaranteed to break completely.

Closed drivers just don't work in a open system. They just don't keep up.

[–] aurelian@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago

My steam deck has been a god send! I am definitely looking forward to using Linux or trying it when I get to rebuilding my PC.

My biggest hope is that by the time I rebuild anti cheat for games like destiny 2 will work...

[–] HamalaKarris@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I have been using windows exclusively for 20 years now but just made the switch to Linux (EndeavourOS - an arch distro) 1 week ago and I couldn't be happier!

99% of all applications that I use work just as well (including games) and for the very very few that won't work (like Valorant) I am using a dual boot setup. The reason that I made the switch was that I got anxious with W10 EOL approaching since I would rather stop using windows altogether than using W11.

[–] mrmanager@lemmy.today 2 points 1 year ago

You will be really thankful for learning Linux in the future, the way big tech is going now.

[–] JDubbleu@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I personally do a ton of game streaming to my Steam Deck which is my main driver for using Windows as it works better with NVIDIA Shield + Moonlight, but I highly recommend you give Pop!OS a try. I'm very pro-linux, but for the longest time it just wasn't there for gaming and I didn't recommend it. With Valve going full steam ahead for the Steam Deck, Proton has gotten so good that for 95% of games things just work out of the box without any issue. Wine even has support for Easy Anti Cheat now and more features are coming every week.

[–] steltek@lemm.ee 5 points 1 year ago (3 children)

When can I get an iPhone without iMessage being preinstalled? Microsoft is, if anything, late to the party on this kind of anti-user BS.

[–] Saneless@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Or any of the i shit on there. And can you still not even change the default app for some things?

[–] steltek@lemm.ee 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Last I checked, opening links in iOS with alternate browsers is very app-specific and requires a hack using a different protocol. E.g. Chrome registers itself as a handler for the "httpChrome" protocol and the app needs to do Open("httpChrome://lemmy.ml"). It's far worse than anything Microsoft did with IE back when they got sued.

[–] Saneless@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Ew. I had an iphone for a year and I couldn't handle it

[–] Dark_Blade@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

Microsoft is, if anything, late to the party on this kind of anti-user BS.

…do you not know about the IE lawsuits?

[–] zikk_transport2@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

iPhone without iMessage being preinstalled?

Someone wants a choice, yet chooses platform that does not provide a choice? Wondering if there is any other platform that allows you to customize your phone. Hmmm. 🤔🤔🤔

[–] steltek@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Hooooooold on, let me be crystal clear: I'm never buying an iPhone.

The point was that if the EU is going to go on an anti-bundling campaign, there's a long line ahead of MS Teams of more egregious behavior.

[–] Dark_Blade@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

…so you were talking about a phone you don’t use or plan on using, in a comparison against work software that you’re practically forced to use?

[–] Nioxic@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Seriously you can’t have windows without having teams now?

you can just uninstall it

[–] mrmanager@lemmy.today 0 points 1 year ago

Until they decide you can't.

[–] zikk_transport2@lemmy.world -2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Or install some alternative OS that don't have bloatware & ads out of the box!

[–] Dark_Blade@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Wow they were right, you really did tell us you use Linux without us asking!

[–] zikk_transport2@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] Dark_Blade@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You mean that extremely old operating system that no longer gets security updates?

[–] zikk_transport2@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago

Mno no, Windows xp, not 95. 👀

[–] Sloogs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Ugh. I've been wanting to switch for a while but that's a bummer to hear. I might just have to bite the bullet and deal with buggy drivers. Back when I got my monitors like 5 years ago there wasn't a ton of options for sub-ms IPS displays with sync technology so I had to go with Acer Predators and GSync but now I'm kinda stuck with NVIDIA. I hate it. I'm sure there's alternatives now but I'm not dropping that kind of money on monitors again.

Ironically, I remember back in the day (like 10+ years ago) it was AMD that had the crap Linux drivers.