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The second episode of LTT's Linux challenge is out.

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[–] gary_host_laptop@lemmy.ml 22 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

"I tried to install something using apt while I should have used pacman, how was I supposed to know this!?"

"I tried to install a .dmg while I should have installed a .exe, how was I supposed to know this!?"

[–] tmpod 6 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Exactly my reaction. Just like, don't tackle a system without reading the first pages of its quick start guide or whatever...

[–] gary_host_laptop@lemmy.ml 8 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Also a lot of the stuff they mentioned were issues regarding closed source software companies, not issues regarding Linux. Sure, some applications will not work perfectly and you will have to use workarounds, but that's because Microsoft forms part of an oligopoly therefore the rest of companies that are also trying to create their walled garden do not support Linux, and users need to create workarounds to this. Why is it a Linux issue when hardware companies create software intended for use only on Windows and also they don't release the source code of such application (making easier for people to port it to other platforms)?

I mean, the top stupid complaint here was about Microsoft's Teams not working properly. Are you kidding me? Of course it's not going to work properly, they will do everything in their power to prohibit from working on anything but Windows if they could.

[–] AgreeableLandscape@lemmy.ml 6 points 2 years ago

Also a lot of the stuff they mentioned were issues regarding closed source software companies, not issues regarding Linux.

As seen time and time again, it's not Linux not being able to do something, it's Microsoft or Apple screwing it over.

Similar story with Firefox and Google.

[–] tmpod 6 points 2 years ago

I mean, the top stupid complaint here was about Microsoft’s Teams not working properly. Are you kidding me? Of course it’s not going to work properly, they will do everything in their power to prohibit from working on anything but Windows if they could.

This, this and this. We've seen tech giants deliberately crippling competitors in order to make themselves look better in the picture, so why are they surprised Microsoft Teams doesn't work as well outside their system? The LTT team is focused on tech news, surely they know some of this. I'd love to see Anthony (the Linux guy over there) commentate on this series, or give them some slight nudges every now and then, even if just in the script or video revision. I'm sure some stuff would be cleared up much better.

[–] AgreeableLandscape@lemmy.ml 5 points 2 years ago (1 children)

“I tried to install something using apt while I should have used pacman, how was I supposed to know this!?”

I mean at least that wouldn't actually fuck up your system since it'll just return a command not found.

Installing incompatible versions of stuff though... I've killed Linux installations by doing that.

[–] gary_host_laptop@lemmy.ml 0 points 2 years ago

That's fair, I think a message saying something like "apt is used for debian based distributions" or whatever like that might be a good idea, but it maeks u tink if you should be putting that stuff in the first place.