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One of the admins at lemmy.blahaj.zone asked us to purge a community and all of its users because they thought it was full of child sexual abuse material, aka CSAM, fka kiddy porn. We assured them that we had checked this comm thoroughly and we were satisfied that all of the models on it were of age.

The admin then demanded we purge the comm because they mistook it for CSAM, and claimed that the entire point of the community was to make people think it was CSAM. We vehemently disagreed that that was in fact the point of the community, but they decided to defederate from us anyway. That is of course their choice, but we will not purge our communities or users because someone else makes a mistake of fact, and then lays the responsibility for their mistake at our feet.

If someone made a community intended to fool people into thinking it was kiddy porn, that would be a real problem. If someone of age goes online and pretends -- not roleplays, but pretends with intent to deceive -- to be a child and makes porn, that is a real problem. Nobody here is doing that.

One of the reasons we run our instance the way that we do is that we want it to be inclusive. We don't body shame, and we believe that all adults have a right to sexual expression. That means no adult on our instance is too thin, fat, bald, masculine, old, young, cis, gay, etc., to be sexy, and that includes adults that look younger than some people think they should. Everyone has a right to lust and to be lusted after. There's no way to draw a line that says "you can't like adult people that look like X" without crossing a line that we will not cross.

EDIT: OK, closing this post to new comments. Everything that needs saying has been said. Link to my convo with the blahaj admin here.

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[–] trimmerfrost@lemm.ee 7 points 1 year ago (3 children)

This is genuine issue with the fediverse. Many instances could gang up and defederate from an instance and all the voices on that instances are essentially censored, like a typical centralised social media

[–] parkomin@lemmynsfw.com 19 points 1 year ago (1 children)

on the plus side lemmynsfw is safe from admins that are hostile to nsfw in general. most social media platforms had a nsfw purge of some kind in the past.

making a second account for nsfw is what i do for the other platforms anyways. with most lemmy apps and some web frontends, using multiple accounts is pretty easy as well.

[–] jacksteelexxx@lemmynsfw.com 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

this is pretty much the only reason I'm still on twitter (I refuse to call it 'X', much like I refuse to call the Sears Tower the 'Willis Tower'). I follow sex workers. Twitter is the only place (social media place) that actually allows sex workers to exist

[–] parkomin@lemmynsfw.com 10 points 1 year ago

Every social media platform allows sex workers to exist to some degree. But they also have no problem with changing the rules and banning random sex workers and content, with zero transparency at all.

Right now reddit and twitter have a lot of great nsfw content, oftentimes posted directly from sex workers themselves.

But the actual people that run these platforms don't have a lot interest to keep nsfw alive on their platform. It's an afterthought at best and they won't be above making a full tumblr style purge to appease investors or ad companies.

Even OnlyFans of all platforms tried to do a nsfw purge.

A site like lemmynsfw, that has nsfw in its name, is very unlikely to rebrand itself into some family friendly hellhole anytime in the future in comparison.

[–] LexiconBexicon@lemmynsfw.com 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's really sad how tech companies have capitulated to Chinese and Saudi Arabian conservative values over the years by shutting down sex workers and trying their best to ban any sex related content on the internet, it's annoying

[–] jacksteelexxx@lemmynsfw.com 12 points 1 year ago

it's not the tech companies. Nor does it have anything to do with China or Saudi Arabia. It's partially the fault of the US conservative anti-porn christofacists and SESTA/FOSTA getting passed in 2018. And partially the fault of credit card payment processors deeming adult content "unacceptable" (payment processors have WAY TOO MUCH power and control over what internet content is acceptable or not!)

[–] jerkface@lemmy.ca 18 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

It is not censorship to say that I will not let you use my resources that I bought, pay monthly fees for, and spend a chunk of my life to maintain, so you can to spread your message. That's fucking unhinged. Come back to reality.

Is it censorship when I choose not to click on a link? What if I have a live stream and people are watching me, is it censorship then? No??? Same fucking thing. My hardware. My server. I get the last say on what runs on it. That's not censorship, that's not even close.

[–] reverendsteveii@lemm.ee 4 points 1 year ago

if by "censored" you mean "still perfectly accessible to anyone who wants to read or participate but no longer being actively promoted by strangers". So, you know, not at all censored.