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[–] Kinglink@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (3 children)

There was a time when nuclear was the right choice, but now it is just not cost effective nor can it be brought online fast enough to make a dent in our problems

And in ten years.. it'll be too long to add nuclear ... And in ten years it'll.

Solar and wind works in some places, it doesn't work in all places, and the goal is to start moving away from Coal and Natural gas, it's a long process no matter which way you go, but starting to add more nuclear capactiy so in 10 years we can use it, isn't a bad thing.

"It's too late" has also been a refrain about Nuclear, but hey, in 2010 if people started to go nuclear, we'd have that capacity today, instead it was too late then, and we can only go solar and Wind... and we're still lacking.

[–] foo@programming.dev 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Solar wind thermal energy works almost everywhere that humans thrive and it's cheap

[–] Arsenal4ever@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

The comments are full of nuclear bros who think nuclear is the answer. Something about sun and wind not working everywhere.

[–] mierdabird@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

starting to add more nuclear capactiy so in 10 years we can use it, isn't a bad thing.

Unfortunately this is only true if the money tied up building a reactor for 10 years doesn't take away from the budget for wind and solar projects. If it isn't then you're literally stealing clean energy from the present to hopefully get roughly 1/4 that rate of power production in a decade

[–] Kinglink@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

The problem is that Solar and Wind doesn't work as a viable solution everywhere, so if the choice is between do nothing or start nuclear, you go nuclear.

Instead America has done neither and waited as have many countries.

If Solar and wind can work, and they are as fast as you say, of course you go wind and solar, the problem is that's not the case in many places.

[–] CantSt0pPoppin@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

I am not here to argue with you or to persuade you to change your opinion. I am only here to provide you with some information and facts that you may find useful or interesting.

You are right that solar and wind energy may not be viable solutions everywhere, depending on the availability of resources, the cost of installation and maintenance, the environmental impacts, and the social acceptance.

However, there are also many challenges and risks associated with nuclear energy, such as the disposal of radioactive waste, the proliferation of nuclear weapons, the safety of nuclear power plants and fusion devices, and the potential for environmental contamination and human health hazards in case of accidents or mishandling.

According to the U.S. Energy Information Administration, renewable energy sources accounted for about 20% of U.S. electricity generation in 2020, while nuclear energy accounted for about 19%. Solar and wind energy grew at the fastest rate in U.S. history in 2020, while nuclear energy remained relatively stable³. Some studies have suggested that it is possible to supply about 75-80% of U.S. electricity needs with solar and wind energy, if the system were designed with excess capacity and storage⁴.

Nuclear energy is not a renewable source of energy, as uranium is a finite resource that will eventually run out. Moreover, nuclear energy is not carbon-free, as the process of mining, refining, and preparing uranium emits greenhouse gases. Nuclear waste is also a major environmental problem that has no permanent solution yet.

I hope this information helps you to understand some of the advantages and disadvantages of nuclear energy compared to solar and wind energy. If you have any questions or comments, please feel free to share them with me. 😊

(1) The Disadvantages of Nuclear Energy - Physics | ScienceBriefss.com. https://sciencebriefss.com/physics/the-disadvantages-of-nuclear-energy/.

(2) Advantages and Challenges of Nuclear Energy. https://www.energy.gov/ne/articles/advantages-and-challenges-nuclear-energy.

(3) Advantages Disadvantages of Nuclear Energy - NRC. https://www.nrc.gov/docs/ML0813/ML081350295.pdf.

(4) Various Disadvantages of Nuclear Energy. https://www.conserve-energy-future.com/Disadvantages_NuclearEnergy.php.

(5) U.S. Energy Information Administration - EIA - Independent Statistics .... https://www.eia.gov/todayinenergy/detail.php?id=48896.

(6) Study: wind and solar can power most of the United States. https://www.theguardian.com/environment/climate-consensus-97-per-cent/2018/mar/26/study-wind-and-solar-can-power-most-of-the-united-states.

(7) Pros And Cons of Nuclear Energy | EnergySage. https://www.energysage.com/about-clean-energy/nuclear-energy/pros-and-cons-nuclear-energy/.

(8) Nuclear energy: what it is and its advantages and disadvantages. https://www.endesa.com/en/the-e-face/power-plants/nuclear-power.

(9) Renewable Energy | Department of Energy. https://www.energy.gov/eere/renewable-energy. (10) U.S. renewable energy use nearly quadrupled in past decade, report .... https://www.washingtonpost.com/climate-solutions/2021/11/09/renewable-energy-solar-wind-biden/.

(11) Wind and solar power producing record amount of U.S. electricity. https://www.usatoday.com/story/tech/science/2022/03/03/wind-and-solar-power-producing-record-amount-u-s-electricity/9353259002/.

[–] schroedingershat@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago

Where?

Show the data.

What place on earth is nuclear more viable than renewables?

No vague gesturing. Hard numbers.

[–] schroedingershat@lemmy.world -2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The best time to ignore the nuclear industry scammers and spend the money on renewables instead for 10x the return in clean energy was 1942.

The second best time is now.